Stamkos has on every single contract taken on average about 2 million less on His contracts he took 8.5 the year after the big players took 10.5. Kinda makes your gm look bad for signing Kane for 7.
The taxes matter. They matter even more when players get completely tax free signing bonuses.
Look at Tampa. Their 3 guys who took giant discounts just happen to be the 3 guys who got the signing bonuses? They just happen to love it the most or are the best team guys? Or tax breaks help. Tax free signing bonuses help a lot
Your team just paid 11.5 for a one legged Karlson. And 7 for Evander Kane. They have nice weather too. Teams that have actually won like LA, chicago and Pitt and Anaheim had to pay top dollar to their stars.
but Tampa/Dallas/Nashville just happen to have the best gms and players that want to be their the most? And those players just happen to be the one with signing bonuses?
Ive actually run the same comparison charts regarding Kane and Karlsson. Kane was slightly overpaid, roughly to the same degree that Nylander was, while Karlsson was significantly underpaid relative to his comparables when you adjust for production. The Sharks have received significant discounts too; look at the contracts that Joe Thornton signed throughout his prime.
Your posts are epic nonsense...my God man, did the Leafs team bus run over your dog or something?
Do you actually have anything valuable to add to the discussion? Or do you just want to try to convince yourself that anybody who criticizes your golden boy must just be a “hater”?
You’ve even got Leafs fans agreeing with me in here on many counts.
Agreed.
I have zero problem with him saying that.
Couldn't you just as easily say he forced Nylander to hold out that long to get him to reduce his demands? Also, this had the side effect of lowering Nylander's cap hit which helps the team now.
Meh, if he's overpaid, it's by a very little amount.
I doubt he said that and he certainly didn't say it publicly. In fact, he publicly said something quite to the contrary (along the lines of "No one knows what will happen in the future..."). I.e., fake news.
These contracts were signed several years apart and can't be compared. The recent comparables were Eichel and Draisatl and Matthews is a superior talent. But Matthews is slightly overpaid, yes.
I have zero problem with him saying that.
Had no choice. Zaitsev demanded a trade. Ceci is a lateral move in that regard and Dubas managed to shed Brown's cap space in the same move plus got a pick. He also managed to trade Zaitsev's remaining 5 years for Ceci's 1 year commitment. In every possible way to look at this deal, Dubas did well.
Someone has to play on the right side this season. Well, I guess we could try some drastic modern age Roger Neilson style experiment and go with a 1 - 4 arrangement the whole season.
He also:
- Signed the most valuable UFA possibly ever available.
- Brought in Jake Muzzin to shore up the defense.
- Moved Marleau's almost untradable contract without losing a roster player or prospect.
- Rightly saw that Kadri was the most valuable trade piece and sacrificed some forward depth to finally address the defense woes and somehow managed to convince the Avs to retain half of Barrie's salary while at the same time trading for Kadri's replacement.
- For the last year these boards have said the Leafs were screwed with their cap situation. Dubas managed to navigate this masterfully while leaving enough space to fight off an offer sheet to Marner.
Dunno, your list seems kinda weak and mine seems kinda strong.
I’m not going to give him credit for holding out on Nylander when he still overpaid him. You don’t give credit to somebody for bringing down a cap hit that is still considerably overpaid. By my calculations, the Nylander overpayment was by about $0.75M (17%). That’s not huge but the problem was it set a precedent that is being followed.
If you want to look at his quote regarding a Nylander trade, it’s here:
“The discussion that William and I had had a couple of times was a fear of his … that he was being signed to be traded,” Dubas told Bob McCown and Stephen Brunt on Prime Time Sports. “And my discussion with him, I just affirmed with him that that was not our intention whatsoever.
“Our intention was that as long as I was here that I saw him as a part of the
Toronto Maple Leafs.”
I don’t think we want to get into the business at all of having these young, core pieces of ours, and then going forward and moving them from our team,”
You’re right, not that bad and maybe not worth including. Tough to say what he said to Nylander behind closed doors. If Nylander misinterpreted the situation, that’s still partly Dubas’ fault for not being clear.
Matthews isn’t “slightly overpaid”. It doesn’t make sense to say that Eichel and McDavid were the only comparables, when Matthews isn’t that similar, but if he was, then Dubas should’ve got 8 years and he should’ve paid him closer to Eichel. He didn’t get 8 years and one could argue that 8 years at 16.67% cap hit than McDavid took is more team friendly than the 5 years at 14.63% cap hit that Matthews took. The fact that you can even make that argument between their contracts is absolutely hilarious when McDavid has proven he is in another league from Matthews.
He did have a choice to sign Cody Ceci for more than his qualifying offer. Do your homework. He did not do well in every possible way to look at that deal because he acquired Cody f***ing Ceci and then paid him $0.2M more than his qualifying offer. The fact that you say he did well in every possible way shows that you aren’t ready to hand over criticism to this GM where it is due.
There are defensemen available for $2M who are miles better than Cody Ceci; even left-handed defensemen who would be playing on their off side.
The fact that you don’t have a problem with either of the comments he made to the media shows that you don’t understand how he blew his leverage in negotiations. I think the proof is in the pudding with the actual contracts. As I have said before, these comments weren’t a massively big deal but they were unprofessional rookie mistakes that most GMs don’t make.
Lastly, nobody asked for a list of the good moves that he has made. Somebody asked for a list of the bad rookie mistake type moves and I included them.
