Midterm Average Ranking (2018 Draft)

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

I know CanucksArmy track the consensus ranking but they use some sources I personally don't find very trustworthy when it comes to final draft outcomes.

A small extract of the weighted rankings for the 1st round (higher weight put on ISS and McKenzie).

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Dahlin is clearly number 1 - shocker.
Top 2 to 4 is solid and very close.
Boqvist seems to be in a bracket of his own at 5.
Not that many other major takes except that scouts are all over the place on Merkley and to a large extend on McLeod.

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[PuckLife]

Interesting! Why don't you use NHL Central Scouting as a source?

 

[1972]

This is actually pretty good, well done

 

[Captain97]

I think veleno is going to rise to 8-10 slot by the draft. As it stands right now I like it.

 

[AmericanDream]

Interesting! Why don't you use NHL Central Scouting as a source?

not sure how he would add them in with how they rank..

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Interesting! Why don't you use NHL Central Scouting as a source?

It's split between NA and Euro so can't really do it without adding my own interpretation.

 

[Alluckks]

Seems that there is obviously Dahlin at 1, and then a consensus for the group of the next 4 picks, and then a noticeable drop off after that; and then an even bigger drop off after pick 9.

Tier 1: Dahlin
Tier 2: Sven, Tkachuk, Zadina, Boqvist
Tier 3: Wahlstrom, Hughes, Dobson, Bouchard
Tier 4: Everyone else listed

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

I think veleno is going to rise to 8-10 slot by the draft. As it stands right now I like it.

I think he’s gonna be Top 5...

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

I think Boqvist can still go into the 2to4 or 6to9 groups depending how he finishes out the season in the SHL as that would be a good sample to evaluate. So far he is only 1A in 12 games which is not particularly great for offensive minded D. I do realize he's very very young but his selling point is the offensive game and so far he hasn't put up any points in the SHL. If he gets hot he has the potential to break into the top4 (Button has him at 2 for now). The group to watch is 6 to 9 IMO to see who can make a big jump until the draft. It seems the thinking is Dobson can still climb and Wahlstrom is the first C in the draft so you never know, if he gets hot sky (well, Dahlin) is the limit for C's in a draft.

 

[bottomofthefoodchain]

Hopefully Boqvist will get some ice time while Bertilsson is at the OG’s

 

[Love]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Bouchard goes 2nd overall.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Bouchard goes 2nd overall.

Dont think he has the dynamic skating required to go Number 2 in todays NHL where there is ao kuch emphasis on dynamic skills and speed. Not a knock on Bouchard, just doesnt strike me as a 2nd overall type of player.

 

[Jamesbay]

Why is Tkachuk seen as the consensus #3 over Zadina? Zadina looks to be having a great year in the Q, and Tkachuk isn't exactly lighting up the NCAA.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Why is Tkachuk seen as the consensus #3 over Zadina? Zadina looks to be having a great year in the Q, and Tkachuk isn't exactly lighting up the NCAA.

They are literally neck and neck with same averaged score. By draft time Im sure there will be a favorite between the two but then it will come down to picking team specific preference...

 

[toxic poster]

They are literally neck and neck with same averaged score. By draft time Im sure there will be a favorite between the two but then it will come down to picking team specific preference...

it should be zadina by a country mile though

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

it should be zadina by a country mile though

Clearly 3 of the 6 services/people that do this for a living disagree. I like both but that's based on WJC and highlights so what do I know

 

[93LEAFS]

Just wondering why does ISS get the same weight as McKenzie. They've been a mess since they have changed ownership a couple times since Hyman's dad bought them to rank his kid.

Its been 4 months, and I still don't think they know which Samuelsson is which at the USNTDP.

 

[Breakers]

Interesting! Why don't you use NHL Central Scouting as a source?

Probably because they split up North America and Europe.

 

[Rasmus CacOlainen]

Just wondering why does ISS get the same weight as McKenzie. They've been a mess since they have changed ownership a couple times since Hyman's dad bought them to rank his kid.

Its been 4 months, and I still don't think they know which Samuelsson is which at the USNTDP.

I felt they are the second most reputable source after McK. I did some reading/reviewing as well post factum and at least in 2010-2013 they performed just about as well as McK (very slightly worse). All the related posts are somewhere in the Sabres board draft thread - post 754 onwards has that topic covered with some data.

 

[geofff]

Looks like you're calculating ISS and McKenzie's rankings at half the weight, not double.

 

[The Alien]

Looks like you're calculating ISS and McKenzie's rankings at half the weight, not double.

Yeah I think that's the point, lower score is better.