Pre-Game Talk: Middle 6 Rolls Snake Eyes for Scoring - Edm v NYI - Tues @ 5:30

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

You are retired. Spending your day yelling at the kids to get off your lawn is not an all day thing

Busy busy busy!

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

 

[Sanchez]

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

Holloway needs to come back soon and Brown can stay in bottom 6.

 

[Oilers]

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

Brown bottom 6. Good!
I wouldn't mind seeing Janmark play with Draisaitl/Kane and have Foegele back on third line.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Brown bottom 6. Good!
I wouldn't mind seeing Janmark play with Draisaitl/Kane and have Foegele back on third line.

No, no.

 

[29Beast97Mode]

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[ujju2]

Except for the one year of Talbot, when have we not had the worst goaltending in the league during the McDrai term?


May be a common denominator there?

As bad as Koski was, Smith was far from the worst starter in the league when he was here. Never thought I'd miss Smith lol.

 

[elmeroil]

37 in the top 6 just makes me sad. What options do they have though with Mr 22 games 1 point Brown. Man that's as pathetic as it gets. There's probably goalies that have played less games this year that have more points

 

[ujju2]

I was confident the team would rebound with the coaching reset, and it did. But I had underestimated the degree to which Skinner would continue to sink the season. he's just been awful and responsible for 5-6 losses this year on his own. Trouble is he doesn't really steal games. Maybe one this season.

With the 3 game road trip ahead being very difficult its hard to imagine us winning 2/3, but thats what we would have to do just to be .500 at Christmas. I just don't know how many times the team can just dig down even deeper and get it back. Having to outwork opponents by a wide margin every game just to make up for league worst goaltending is a real hard track to maintain. At some point, and maybe now, exhaustion hits again. The Oilers have much more game density as well in back half of season. With Drai looking like he is I'm not seeing it at present. Maybe still a WC, but I don't know. This last two games losing, its something the team couldn't afford.

He has stolen games in the past - not sure what's happened this year.

Outduelling Hellebuyck a couple years ago in a tight SO win is the first one that comes to mind.

 

[OilersaretheMcBest]

He has stolen games in the past - not sure what's happened this year.

Outduelling Hellebuyck a couple years ago in a tight SO win is the first one that comes to mind.

I couple years ago is a very long time ago lol

 

[Paralyzer]

Kinda OT:

Made a Blockbuster trade 2 days ago. I hope this works out in my favor! (I'm NovaStrike). I now have McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard and Skinner. Rest of the roster is Stamkos, Kaprizov, Jt. Miller, Toffoli, Sergachev, Heiskanen, Fox, Debrincat, Panarin, Seider, and Oettinger (though I saw he's injured and I'll have to find a replacement for now)

If there is ANY time for Draisaitl and Hyman to get hot, now is it.

 

[bone]

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

Or become history's greatest checking line essentially guaranteeing 0 goals by either team for the 10 minutes a night they play. I like it overall since Brown and Janmark seem to be reading each other well on the PK maybe that translates to a strong pair of wingers, but my god, poor McLeod. He's likely going to get bought out if this line lasts as he's bound to end the season 10-15 points max.

 

[bone]

Brown bottom 6. Good!
I wouldn't mind seeing Janmark play with Draisaitl/Kane and have Foegele back on third line.

Nah. Janmark should only get elevated vs. his former teams Chicago, Vegas or especially Dallas. He doesn't score against anyone else and is a black hole offensively against 29 of 31 teams. Foegele at least will be part of them getting pressure and can create some space, just hopefully its the other two shooting more often than him.

 

[McBooya42]

Naw, it’s more fun to watch other teams pick up goalies and watch them play out of their minds for the new team that grabbed them.

No one wanted Raanta.

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

Hell of a shut down line though.

 

[Lacaar]

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

I think the Brown-Mcleod line will end up being the defacto 4th line in that they should have the least minutes. I pity anyone on the team that has to play with them, poor Janmark looks to have drawn the short stick.

Play them limited minutes against the weakest competition out there and bring on the hopium something clicks.

I hope Mcleod is hurt. Not that I wish any ill on him as I was a big fan of his. But his play this year has really sour'd my opinion of him. Whenever I see Mcleod play I say this for fun as it helps me cope "God damnit! Mcleod's disengaging! I knew it! shit!" We need to trade for Ice man or maybe find goose to talk to him.

 

[bone]

He has stolen games in the past - not sure what's happened this year.

Outduelling Hellebuyck a couple years ago in a tight SO win is the first one that comes to mind.

He did that as a complete unknown rookie for that one, so that may have been a bit of the thing Edmonton experiences often vs. lesser known backups, but yeah that may have been his best game in the NHL.

The last two seasons since becoming a regular in the NHL there is only three games that Edmonton won where they had less than 50% of the expected goal share without them scoring at least 4 goals and only once where they scored less than 3.

The two games that they won with 3 goals were a Buffalo 3-2 in March where shots were 39-37 for Buffalo so not really a steal, but just an outduel of the other goalie. There was also a 3-2 win in October last year vs. Calgary where Edmonton was outshot 42-26, but the expected goal share was much closer at 47.5%. So this one is close to steal, but maybe not an outright one as it took Markstrom misplaying a puck in the third for Edmonton to ultimately come back.

December 27 vs. the Flames was the sole victory where Edmonton was outplayed badly and only scored two. Easily this was his best game of the year and the only true steal in the last two seasons as he allowed only 1 goal on an expected 4.53, and fortunately Edmonton took care of business scoring 2 on their expected 2.14.

All that said, looking at these games specifically, his two best wins were against Calgary last year who was known to be underachieving offensively most of the year.

He's had occasional games where he was better than the opposing goalie in a tightly contested game, but really he can't be expected to steal a game on any kind of regular basis.

 

[Oilers]

Nah. Janmark should only get elevated vs. his former teams Chicago, Vegas or especially Dallas. He doesn't score against anyone else and is a black hole offensively against 29 of 31 teams. Foegele at least will be part of them getting pressure and can create some space, just hopefully its the other two shooting more often than him.

for me I'd like to see Janmark just play that puck retrieval/grind style for that line. I find guys have trouble finding chemistry with Foegele, he's a bit too tunnel vision.

but I get what your saying.

 

[Drivesaitl]

This is a hell of a look

Maybe the lack of finish on that 3rd line is so strong they cancel eachother out? Lol

Jebus that third line. lolol Call it the cratered line. Watch them score tonight.

Kinda OT:

Made a Blockbuster trade 2 days ago. I hope this works out in my favor! (I'm NovaStrike). I now have McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard and Skinner. Rest of the roster is Stamkos, Kaprizov, Jt. Miller, Toffoli, Sergachev, Heiskanen, Fox, Debrincat, Panarin, Seider, and Oettinger (though I saw he's injured and I'll have to find a replacement for now)

If there is ANY time for Draisaitl and Hyman to get hot, now is it.
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How is this even relevant to anything. I fed my cat today. I feel like I should have to mention that.

I couple years ago is a very long time ago lol

Yeah really if we're digging that far it confirms the point of concern.

 

[Drivesaitl]

No one wanted Raanta.


Hell of a shut down line though.

Shut down life. The no pulse line. If every line was like this we'd stop watching hockey. Maybe we could trade for Kupari and he could do nothing all year as well. lol

 

[Drivesaitl]

for me I'd like to see Janmark just play that puck retrieval/grind style for that line. I find guys have trouble finding chemistry with Foegele, he's a bit too tunnel vision.

but I get what your saying.

Foegele should be getting some of the being chased by bees meme that Yakupov was always getting. He's like a random molecule, never know what he's going to do. Somehwere in Foegele there is a hint of promise and skill on puck. Then he plays in NHL games and his brain is disconnected. This guy can do a lot of things with a puck and has speed and some moves but just never puts it together.

 

[bone]

Foegele should be getting some of the being chased by bees meme that Yakupov was always getting. He's like a random molecule, never know what he's going to do. Somehwere in Foegele there is a hint of promise and skill on puck. Then he plays in NHL games and his brain is disconnected. This guy can do a lot of things with a puck and has speed and some moves but just never puts it together.

Good comparison, he's in many ways a bigger Yamamoto in terms of effort, forecheck and such, but with less ability to find open ice. Right now, I think Draisaitl need more of that than what Janmark or Brown can bring. I still think Gagner would be best in that spot right now, but since Ryan appears to be okay, leave that line alone for another game or two and revisit after we seen how things look in those games.

 

[Oilers]

Foegele should be getting some of the being chased by bees meme that Yakupov was always getting. He's like a random molecule, never know what he's going to do. Somehwere in Foegele there is a hint of promise and skill on puck. Then he plays in NHL games and his brain is disconnected. This guy can do a lot of things with a puck and has speed and some moves but just never puts it together.

Exactly how I feel about Foegele.

Foegele is the type that will get into a good position for a scoring chance and not score lol... where Janmark won't get into open space and will just cause more havoc, hopefully giving Kane and Draisaitl a bit more room to work.

obv hopefully we just find a better fit than Brown, Foegele and Janmark.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Exactly how I feel about Foegele.

Foegele is the type that will get into a good position for a scoring chance and not score lol... where Janmark won't get into open space and will just cause more havoc, hopefully giving Kane and Draisaitl a bit more room to work.

obv hopefully we just find a better fit than Brown, Foegele and Janmark.

Foegele is Jeff Friesen. All the speed, some skill, NO finish at all.

But a guy that can play in your bottom-6 for like a decade at the right price.

Edit: Not as Gritty as Friesen, but I will say hockey was different when Friesen played.

 

[bone]

Foegele is Jeff Friesen. All the speed, some skill, NO finish at all.

But a guy that can play in your bottom-6 for like a decade at the right price.

Edit: Not as Gritty as Friesen, but I will say hockey was different when Friesen played.

Friesen also ended up with more than 200 NHL goals and 5 20+ goal seasons, and three 60+ point season. So I'd take Friesen over Foegele. If I remember correctly, wasn't he a bit smarter defensively, but not 100% sure of that.

 

[McBeastMode]

Foegele should be getting some of the being chased by bees meme that Yakupov was always getting. He's like a random molecule, never know what he's going to do. Somehwere in Foegele there is a hint of promise and skill on puck. Then he plays in NHL games and his brain is disconnected. This guy can do a lot of things with a puck and has speed and some moves but just never puts it together.