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Seriously with his resume now and the montreal hf context, how bad/good u think he is ?
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I want to see how he reacts when things aren't going so good. All he had to do was sit back and enjoy the show. The habs were clicking in all aspects against an inferior club. His system looked great, but I still don't believe he's an intelligent man who is better than any other average coach. I think he's really bad, but I can't complain about him during the first round, everything worked, but I'm not ready to proclaim him to be anything more than what I thought he was after watching 82 games.
82 >>> 4. If the team continues to respond to MT the way they did this series, obviously I'll be eating crow, but I don't think he did anything special, but he certainly didn't do anything to hurt us either in the first round.
I want to see how he reacts when things aren't going so good. All he had to do was sit back and enjoy the show.
So he had no impact when things go well but all the blame when it goes bad ?
82 >>> 4.
82 = 100 pt and 4 = sweep . I think it's good
I want to see how he reacts when things aren't going so good. All he had to do was sit back and enjoy the show.
So he had no impact when things go well but all the blame when it goes bad ?
82 >>> 4.
82 = 100 pt and 4 = sweep . I think it's good
If you look at results alone and not the process that lead to those results, sure. These 4 games are basically the only 4 games the habs have looked good, even though we reached 100 points, we did so, largely despite coach Therrien, he rode poor players over better players, ie Murray being on the ice, benching Subban when we need to score, playing Markov beyond the minutes he should be playing and on and on. He deployed a system similar to JM which was basically lay and pray, hope Price bails us out.
Nearly every young player on the team saw some regression aside from Patches. Why did it take him 82 games to realize Eller can be a positive contributor to this team? Sure Eller takes some of the blame here, but so does the coach who didn't put him in a good position to succeed. Now, all the sudden, he's leaning on him. Weird, tbh.
Although optically 100 points is excellent, however, the teams play, on most nights was anything but excellent. He should have been playing this system all year long.
I think the whole process was necessary to be better 4 the playoff. I mean the tough love on subban, the Eller situation, Murray playing ...If you look at results alone and not the process that lead to those results, sure. These 4 games are basically the only 4 games the habs have looked good, even though we reached 100 points, we did so, largely despite coach Therrien, he rode poor players over better players, ie Murray being on the ice, benching Subban when we need to score, playing Markov beyond the minutes he should be playing and on and on. He deployed a system similar to JM which was basically lay and pray, hope Price bails us out.
Nearly every young player on the team saw some regression aside from Patches. Why did it take him 82 games to realize Eller can be a positive contributor to this team? Sure Eller takes some of the blame here, but so does the coach who didn't put him in a good position to succeed. Now, all the sudden, he's leaning on him. Weird, tbh.
Although optically 100 points is excellent, however, the teams play, on most nights was anything but excellent. He should have been playing this system all year long.
He puts a great 4 line rolling lineup with an aggressive forecheck to expose the weak D-squad of tbay. He should get credit for preparing the team well for that serie and TWO excellent regular season.
I think the whole process was necessary to be better 4 the playoff. I mean the tough love on subban, the Eller situation, Murray playing ...
He puts a great 4 line rolling lineup with an aggressive forecheck to expose the weak D-squad of tbay. He should get credit for preparing the team well for that serie and TWO excellent regular season.
You can't be serious. So now that we swept a terrible team, all the crap MT pulled was the right thing? What? Did you ever think that if he didn't have his head in his ass all season that the team would have obliterated tampa with a seasoned tinordi and beaulieu instead of eeking out wins? The mind games wit subban, Lars, tinodi, etc were justified? Wow
I don't like some of the the things he does.
I don't like the way he handles his lines sometimes.
But God damn, he has implemented a system, the team he is coaching is following that system AND they are winning.
I don't like some of the the things he does.
I don't like the way he handles his lines sometimes.
But God damn, he has implemented a system, the team he is coaching is following that system AND they are winning.
For the Therrien detractor, do u really think the habs r Boston - Chicago
stack and are underacheiving under a scrub coach like Therrien ?
The biggest misconception is that the Habs don't have a talented roster. There is tonnes of talent there. Why do you think people got down on MT? Hpow many coaches would struggle to deal with the talent and depth on this roster? Elle at times and briere on the 4th line and bourque in the press box. We have a top 10 roster.
Although optically 100 points is excellent, however, the teams play, on most nights was anything but excellent. He should have been playing this system all year long.
So although MT did very little right during the regular season, and the Habs only looked good during these 4 games in the playoffs and are now playing the right system, how many points over 100 do you think they would have had in the regular season had MT made the choices he's making now and playing the correct system. 120? 130? More?
So although MT did very little right during the regular season, and the Habs only looked good during these 4 games in the playoffs and are now playing the right system, how many points over 100 do you think they would have had in the regular season had MT made the choices he's making now and playing the correct system. 120? 130? More?
You know, I'm someone who hated very very much how Therrien handled the team during the regular season, his clear bias for some players (hell, he even basically admitted a few days ago in interview that he has a big Bouillon bias and it was hard for him to leave him aside) and issues with others, etc.
But do I think a different coach/system would've gotten so many more points for the Habs? Likely not, maybe 4-6, who knows. Price won a whole lot of games we didn't really have business winning this season. In many stretches we were winning but looking pretty bad in the process. I think a better coach/system (and at least vs TB we DID have a different system than in the season and we actually looked for once like a puck possession team) would mostly have allowed us to look a whole lot better in the games we won and have a team well trained in using this system come playoff time.
But hey, I did revise my view of Therrien from bad to average because he did adjust the team's system in the playoffs, and I cannot argue with the team stats in terms of points/wins. I don't think a bad coach would've gotten where he did with this team. I still really dislike him as a whole and wish he's replaced next season, but credit where credit is due, up to now he certainly handled the playoffs quite well.