Confirmed with Link: McDonagh + Miller to Tampa Bay for Namestnikov + Howden + Hajek + 2018 1st + conditional 2019 1st

[RGY]

I think they needed to come away with Sergachev. And if they weren't going to then they had to come away with Howden, Hajek, and Foote for letting them keep Sergachev.

Potential to have (2) 1st round picks. They now have three 1st round picks in the upcoming draft.

An eventual extra 2nd round pick or 1st round pick in 2020 draft. Having 3 picks in the first two rounds in the 2020 draft could be significant help to this organization at that time because they will be going into the 2nd full year of their rebuild for 20-21 season. And at that time the team might be starting to transition to compete.

 

[JohnC]

3-way deal maybe? Hopefully?

 

[Ail]

Namenstikov and Miller are basically the same player, so that's hilarious.

Hajek and Howden aren't as bad as people are going to make them out to be, but we're all going to be a bit disappointed with this deal initially because it doesn't have any of those high profile names attached to it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Spooner replaces Miller, I guess is the logic. Similarly inconsistent players with offensive skill.

I may not like the full value of the deal, but maybe Miller's value wasn't that high.

Well, at the end of the day, I don't see why it would be all that high. He's given zero effort all year, has basically played like he doesn't care, and is one of the most wildly inconsistent players on the Rangers in years.

Look, perhaps this is all of us just overrating Miller's value. That may very well be the case, here. If anything, it probably IS the case.

With that said, Howden is a big time get for us. I was hoping for either him or Foote as the centerpiece for McD. No clue what the conditions on the second are, though.

 

[Charlie Conway]

That son of a bitch kept Sergachev, Point, Raddysh, and Foote.

Gut reaction -- nausea.

Can't even look at the main board.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Namenstikov and Miller are basically the same player, so that's hilarious.

Hajek and Howden aren't as bad as people are going to make them out to be, but we're all going to be a bit disappointed with this deal initially because it doesn't have any of those high profile names attached to it.

TBH, anyone that says Howden is "bad" is a moron. So I sincerely hope no one on our board is that dumb. Hajek is a very solid prospect as well.

 

[Fitzy]

The second turns into a first is TBL win the cup this year or next.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

It becomes two firsts if Tampa wins the cup this year or next

 

[Trxjw]

Initial reaction: The Rangers wanted to get away from Miller. Otherwise swapping him for Namestnikov makes no sense.

However, Howden, Hajek, 1st, conditional second is almost EXACTLY what most of us have been saying for weeks now. It was just Hajek instead of Foote. Gorton didn't get fleeced, despite the hot takes here. People who thought Sergachev, let alone Point were coming back are absolutely freaking clueless. Absolutely. Clueless.

 

[Fitzy]

Namestnikov is now our leading scorer, incidentally.

I would've much rather got another prospect like Raddyish or Foote over Namest, though.

 

[hpNYR]

Do you guys realize what a stud Hajek is? Let’s calm down a little bit. Gorts waited to the wite and got the best he can, which isn’t all that bad at all.

Love that were getting Namestnikov. Kovalchuk is almost a certainty over the summer too.

 

[Charlie Conway]

When Rangers management said "we're blowing it up," did they mean the team or these servers?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah if you look at this as a Miller-Namestinkov swap its essentially Hajek,Howden and possibly 2 1sts for McDonagh which isn't too bad.

Would have easily preferred Foote to Hajek though. If he was involved this is a pretty fair deal.

I hope Tampa gets their asses whooped this year, buy out Callahan over the summer and then win in 2019.

 

[silverfish]

Could've been better. Should've been better.

I was hoping for better.

Whatever.

EDIT - I just wanted to rhyme things. I obviously have no proof it "could've been better". Please do not take your anger out on me.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Miller for Namestnikov is slightly in our favor

Then it's basically: McDonagh for Hajek, Howden, 1st and 2nd (conditional)

I am okay with this trade. Not great, not bad. It's fair value.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

BRUTAL trade. Brutal.

That return would be borderline bad for just McDonagh. We're giving them Miller too?


McDonagh was our one legitimate bargaining chip to acquire future elite talent. Gorton unquestionably failed to do that here.

Seems like he let Yzerman force him into a bad trade because he just wanted to get the rebuild started.

 

[Trxjw]

Could've been better. Should've been better.

Whatever.

Oh give me a break. You have nothing to demonstrate that it "could've been better." Nothing.

 

[nevesis]

I am fine with this trade, Gorton got a bunch of young, skilled youth, some players ready to plug in right away to replace those traded AND good picks.

This is what a rebuild is. Be patient.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

It's a sad day ... let's see if we get fleeced ...

 

[NYR Viper]

if I could actually f***ing type something without the site crashing, the deal doesn't look all that horrible to me. I would have preferred the 1st '19 but break it down like this:


McDonagh (AT FULL SALARY) - this means the Rangers have the ability to take on some money in the off-season

for

Howden (probably a top-5 prospect immediately in this system)
Hajek (may be the best defense prospect in this organization from day 1)
TB 1st '18
TB 2nd '20 or TB 1st '20

This looks identical to the Yandle trade except Gorton didn't need to retain any money.


Miller (who didn't look good at all this year)

for

Namestnikov (who has had a career year and if memory serves me corectly, this organization has liked for a few years)

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

So our best player was worth... this? And not by himself either?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

The second turns into a first is TBL win the cup this year or next.

Wow they have to win the cup for it to be a 1st? This is unbelievable.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

The lack of impact isn't good. I don't think there's any big impact with Namestnikov, Hajek, Howden. Might very well be 3 good/decent NHL'ers, but we gave up our best player, and another player worth a 1st+.

This team will make its mark in the draft. Gonna need a top 5 pick the next few years. Thats where we will acquire our best players. If we don't get picks in that range or we pick poorly, the rebuild will be extremely long.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I’m just so mad that we gave up on JT Miller.

This was a franchise-altering trade. We need Howden and Hajek to make it, otherwise we’re screwed.

 

[Trxjw]

So many hot takes from people who just googled "Libor Hajek and Brett Howden scouting report".

 

[Tawnos]

2 A prospects, potentially 2 firsts for McDonagh is a good deal.

They’re not top 10 league prospects, but they’re still A prospects.

Not blown away, but it’s fine.