McDavid's numbers compared to the greatest seasons in NHL history - adjusted to this years scoring levels

[TheStatican]

Hockey Reference has an adjustment system in place that normalizes player scoring levels to an equal amount of goals per game using the following formula; "All statistics have been adjusted to an 82-game schedule with a maximum roster size of 18 skaters and league averages of 6 goals per game and 1.67 assists per goal." Many view it as a flawed metric since it doesn't take into consideration powerplay scoring levels and it also prorates full seasons with a far lower number of games as few as 44 to full 82 game seasons. This is how Howie Morenz is given credit for having the highest adjusted scoring season of all time.

NHL & WHA Single Season Leaders and Records for Adjusted Points | Hockey-Reference.com

1. Howie Morenz (190), 2. Wayne Gretzky (170), 3. Cooney Weiland (168), 4. Wayne Gretzky (166), 5. Mario Lemieux (165), 6. Wayne Gretzky (163), 7. Frank Boucher (160), 8. Wayne Gretzky (159), 9. Connor McDavid (158), 10. Wayne Gretzky (156)

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A more accurate way to compare seasons would be to adjusted separately for even strength, powerplay and shorthanded scoring levels. With that in mind I adjusted virtually all of greatest offensive seasons in NHL history to this seasons scoring averages which are 2.398 ESG/gm 0.655 PPG/Gm 0.095 SHG/Gm(with few games left in the season these numbers are unlikely to change by much edit* these are the final averages) to see how they would compare to McDavid adjusted to the same environment.

McDavid's previous years adjusted to this year;

​	Season​	Gm​	G​	A​	PT​	PT in 82 Gm​	GPG​	PPG​
McDavid​	2016-17​	82​	35​	81​	115​	115​	0.42​	1.41​
McDavid​	2017-18​	82​	44​	72​	116​	116​	0.54​	1.42​
McDavid​	2018-19​	78​	43​	80​	124​	130​	0.56​	1.58​
McDavid​	2019-20​	64​	36​	68​	104​	133​	0.57​	1.62​
McDavid​	2020-21​	56​	35​	77​	112​	164 (113A)​	0.63​	2.01​
McDavid​	2021-22​	80​	45​	82​	127​	130​	0.56​	1.58​
McDavid​	2022-23​	82​	64​	89​	153​	153 (64G)​	0.78​	1.87​

Note; I adjusted McDavid's 20-21 season to North division scoring levels since it was essentially a league onto it's self due to the Covid travel ban. Scoring in the North division was 3% higher at ES and 4% higher at PP than the rest of the league. Adjusted to league wide averages his pts would be; 115 gpg; 0.64 & ppg; 2.05


Here's what Gretzky & Lemieux's numbers look like for their best seasons adjusted to this year;

​	Season​	Gm​	G​	A​	PT​	PT in 82 Gm​	GPG​	PPG​
Gretzky​	1979-80​	79​	46​	77​	122​	127​	0.58​	1.55​
Gretzky​	1980-81​	80​	45​	87​	132​	135​	0.56​	1.65​
Gretzky​	1981-82​	80​	72​	93​	166​	170 (74G)​	0.91​	2.07​
Gretzky​	1982-83​	80​	58​	101​	159​	163 (59G)​	0.72​	1.98​
Gretzky​	1983-84​	74​	68​	93​	161​	179 (75G)​	0.92​	2.18​
Gretzky​	1984-85​	80​	59​	108​	167​	171 (60G)​	0.73​	2.09​
Gretzky​	1985-86​	80​	42​	127​	169​	173 (130A)​	0.52​	2.11​
Gretzky​	1986-87​	79​	53​	103​	156​	162​	0.67​	1.97​
Gretzky​	1987-88​	64​	34​	90​	124​	158​	0.53​	1.93​
Gretzky​	1988-89​	78​	46​	91​	137​	144​	0.59​	1.75​
Gretzky​	1989-90​	73​	34​	87​	120​	135​	0.46​	1.65​
Gretzky​	1990-91​	78​	38​	107​	146​	153​	0.49​	1.87​
Gretzky​	1991-92​	74​	27​	76​	103​	114​	0.36​	1.39​
Gretzky​	1993-94​	81​	35​	82​	117​	118​	0.43​	1.44​

​	Season​	Gm​	G​	A​	PT​	PT in 82 Gm​	GPG​	PPG​
Lemieux​	1985-86​	79​	37​	69​	107​	111​	0.47​	1.35​
Lemieux​	1986-87​	63​	46​	45​	90​	118 (59G)​	0.72​	1.43​
Lemieux​	1987-88​	77​	56​	72​	128​	137 (60G)​	0.73​	1.67​
Lemieux​	1988-89​	76​	66​	91​	157​	169 (71G)​	0.87​	2.06​
Lemieux​	1989-90​	59​	38​	64​	101​	141​	0.64​	1.72​
Lemieux​	1991-92​	64​	39​	74​	113​	145​	0.61​	1.77​
Lemieux​	1992-93​	60​	60​	75​	135​	184 (82G)​	1.00​	2.25​
Lemieux​	1995-96​	70​	62​	85​	147​	172 (73G)​	0.89​	2.10​
Lemieux​	1996-97​	76​	53​	77​	130​	140​	0.70​	1.71​
Lemieux​	2000-01​	43*​	38​	46​	83​	159* (72G)​	0.87​	1.93​
Lemieux​	2002-03​	67​	31​	70​	101​	123​	0.46​	1.50​

Gretzky has 2 seasons with a higher GPG and 7 with a higher PPG. Lemieux has 4 seasons with a higher GPG and 4 with a higher PPG, though one of those is a half season. As expected the difference between them and McDavid is substantially less than the raw totals they put up. Gretzky's 85-86 is the highest at 169 points(in 80 gp), though both he and Lemieux have one season which prorates higher than that. Hull still has the highest adjusted goal total at 78 and Lemieux has the highest gpg 1.000 in '93(vs 0.996 for Hull in '91).

Here's more select seasons of other superstars adjusted to this seasons ES/PP/SH scoring levels;

​	Season​	Gm​	G​	A​	PT​	PT in 82 Gm​	GPG​	PPG​
Howe​	1950-51​	70​	49​	51​	100​	117​	0.69​	1.42​
Howe​	1951-52​	70​	57​	48​	104​	122 (66G)​	0.81​	1.49​
Howe​	1952-53​	70​	64​	61​	125​	147 (75G)​	0.92​	1.79​
Howe​	1953-54​	70​	41​	61​	102​	120​	0.59​	1.46​
Howe​	1956-57​	70​	50​	52​	102​	120​	0.72​	1.46​
Béliveau​	1955-56​	70​	57​	49​	106​	124 (65G)​	0.81​	1.51​
Esposito​	1968-69​	74​	52​	82​	134​	148​	0.70​	1.81​
Esposito​	1970-71​	78​	76​	76​	152​	160 (80G)​	0.98​	1.95​
Esposito​	1971-72​	76​	67​	68​	135​	146 (72G)​	0.88​	1.78​
Esposito​	1972-73​	78​	55​	73​	128​	135​	0.70​	1.64​
Esposito​	1973-74​	78​	67​	77​	144​	151 (70G)​	0.86​	1.84​
Esposito​	1974-75​	78​	54​	59​	113​	119​	0.69​	1.45​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Orr​	1969-70​	76​	35​	90​	125​	135 (97A)​	0.46​	1.64​
Orr​	1970-71​	78​	37​	101​	138​	146 (106A)​	0.48​	1.78​
Orr​	1971-72​	76​	38​	82​	119​	129​	0.50​	1.57​
Orr​	1972-73​	63​	28​	72​	100​	130​	0.45​	1.58​
Orr​	1973-74​	74​	32​	89​	121​	134 (99A)​	0.43​	1.63​
Orr​	1974-75​	80​	42​	80​	121​	124​	0.52​	1.52​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Ratelle​	1971-72​	63​	48​	64​	112​	146 (62G)​	0.75​	1.78​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Lafleur​	1974-75​	70​	48​	59​	108​	126​	0.69​	1.54​
Lafleur​	1975-76​	80​	51​	63​	114​	117​	0.64​	1.43​
Lafleur​	1976-77​	80​	53​	76​	129​	132​	0.67​	1.61​
Lafleur​	1977-78​	78​	57​	68​	125​	132 (60G)​	0.73​	1.61​
Lafleur​	1978-79​	80​	46​	75​	121​	124​	0.58​	1.52​
Lafleur​	1979-80​	74​	44​	62​	106​	118​	0.60​	1.43​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Dionne​	1976-77​	80​	50​	67​	117​	120​	0.63​	1.46​
Dionne​	1978-79​	80​	53​	63​	116​	118​	0.66​	1.44​
Dionne​	1979-80​	80​	47​	74​	121​	124​	0.59​	1.51​
Dionne​	1980-81​	80​	46​	63​	109​	111​	0.57​	1.36​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Trottier​	1977-78​	77​	44​	73​	117​	125​	0.58​	1.53​
Trottier​	1978-79​	76​	42​	77​	119​	129​	0.55​	1.57​
Bossy​	1978-79​	80​	61​	51​	112​	115 (63G)​	0.77​	1.40​
Bossy​	1981-82​	80​	50​	64​	114​	117​	0.62​	1.43​
Bossy​	1983-84​	67​	42​	53​	95​	116​	0.62​	1.42​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Kurri​	1983-84​	64​	41​	48​	89​	115​	0.64​	1.40​
Kurri​	1984-85​	73​	58​	52​	109​	123 (65G)​	0.79​	1.50​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Nicholls​	1988-89​	80​	57​	65​	121​	124 (58G)​	0.71​	1.52​
Yzerman​	1988-89​	80​	55​	74​	129​	132 (56G)​	0.69​	1.61​
Yzerman​	1989-90​	79​	52​	54​	106​	110​	0.66​	1.34​
Yzerman​	1992-93​	84​	50​	67​	117​	114​	0.59​	1.39​
Yzerman​	1993-94​	58​	22​	56​	78​	111​	0.39​	1.35​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Hull​	1990-91​	78​	78​	40​	118​	124 (82G)​	1.00​	1.51​
Hull​	1991-92​	73​	62​	33​	95​	107 (70G)​	0.85​	1.30​
Oates​	1990-91​	61​	24​	79​	103​	138 (107A)​	0.39​	1.69​
Oates​	1992-93​	84​	36​	82​	117​	115​	0.42​	1.40​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Lafontaine​	1991-92​	57​	39​	39​	78​	112 (56G)​	0.68​	1.37​
Lafontaine​	1992-93​	84​	44​	78​	123​	120​	0.53​	1.46​
Mogilney​	1992-93​	77​	65​	42​	108​	115 (70G)​	0.85​	1.40​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Fedorov​	1993-94​	82​	55​	61​	116​	116​	0.67​	1.42​
Neely​	1993-94​	49*​	47​	24​	71​	119 (79*G)​	0.96​	1.45​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Selanne​	1992-93​	84​	66​	46​	113​	110 (65G)​	0.79​	1.34​
Selanne​	1996-97​	78​	56​	62​	118​	124 (59G)​	0.71​	1.51​
Selanne​	1997-98​	73​	64​	42​	106​	119 (72G)​	0.88​	1.45​
Selanne​	1998-99​	75​	52​	68​	120​	132 (57G)​	0.70​	1.60​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Bure​	1993-94​	76​	55​	44​	99​	106 (59G)​	0.72​	1.30​
Bure​	1999-00​	74​	67​	41​	108​	120 (74G)​	0.91​	1.46​
Bure​	2000-01​	82​	65​	38​	104​	104 (65G)​	0.80​	1.26​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Lindros​	1993-94​	65​	42​	52​	95​	119​	0.65​	1.46​
Lindros​	1994-95​	46*​	31​	42​	73​	130*​	0.68​	1.59​
Lindros​	1995-96​	73​	47​	67​	115​	129​	0.65​	1.57​
Lindros​	1996-97​	52​	35​	51​	86​	135​	0.67​	1.65​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Francis​	1995-96​	77​	25​	87​	113​	120 (93A)​	0.33​	1.46​
Jagr​	1994-95​	48*​	33​	39​	73​	124*​	0.69​	1.51​
Jagr​	1995-96​	82​	62​	86​	148​	148 (62G)​	0.76​	1.80​
Jagr​	1996-97​	63​	51​	52​	103​	133 (66G)​	0.81​	1.63​
Jagr​	1997-98​	77​	44​	77​	120​	128​	0.57​	1.56​
Jagr​	1998-99​	81​	53​	96​	150​	151 (97A)​	0.66​	1.85​
Jagr​	1999-00​	63​	48​	61​	109​	143 (63G)​	0.77​	1.74​
Jagr​	2000-01​	81​	60​	76​	136​	138 (61G)​	0.74​	1.68​
Jagr​	2005-06​	81​	54​	71​	124​	126​	0.67​	1.54​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Sakic​	1995-96​	82​	48​	64​	113​	113​	0.59​	1.37​
Sakic​	2000-01​	82​	60​	69​	129​	129 (60G)​	0.73​	1.57​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Kariya​	1996-97​	69​	46​	59​	105​	125​	0.67​	1.53​
Kariya​	1998-99​	82​	46​	69​	115​	115​	0.56​	1.41​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Forsberg​	1995-96​	82​	30​	83​	113​	113​	0.37​	1.38​
Forsberg​	2002-03​	75​	34​	91​	125​	137 (99A)​	0.46​	1.67​
Forsberg​	2003-04​	39*​	23​	47​	70​	147* (100A)​	0.58​	1.80​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
H Sedin​	2009-10​	82​	34​	94​	128​	128 (94A)​	0.41​	1.56​
D Sedin​	2009-10​	63​	33​	64​	97​	126​	0.52​	1.53​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Crosby​	2006-07​	79​	38​	82​	120​	125​	0.49​	1.52​
Crosby​	2009-10​	81​	58​	65​	122​	124 (59G)​	0.72​	1.51​
Crosby​	2010-11​	41*​	36​	39​	76​	151* (73G)​	0.89​	1.84​
Crosby​	2013-14​	80​	42​	79​	121​	124​	0.53​	1.51​
Malkin​	2008-09​	82​	37​	85​	122​	122​	0.45​	1.48​
Malkin​	2011-12​	75​	59​	69​	128​	140 (65G)​	0.79​	1.71​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Ovechkin​	2007-08​	82​	74​	54​	129​	129 (74G)​	0.91​	1.57​
Ovechkin​	2008-09​	79​	61​	55​	116​	121 (63G)​	0.77​	1.47​
Ovechkin​	2009-10​	72​	57​	65​	122​	139 (65G)​	0.79​	1.69​
​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Stamkos​	2011-12​	82​	71​	44​	114​	114 (71G)​	0.87​	1.40​
Kucherov​	2018-19​	82​	44​	94​	138​	138 (94A)​	0.54​	1.68​
Matthews​	2020-21​	52​	44.5​	27​	71​	113 (70G)​	0.86​	1.37​
Matthews​	2021-22​	73​	61​	47​	108​	121 (69G)​	0.84​	1.48​
Draisaitl	2018-19	82	53	58	112	112​	0.65	1.36
Draisaitl	2019-20	71	46	72	118	136​	0.65	1.66
Draisaitl	2020-21	56	35	58	92	135​	0.62	1.65
Draisaitl	2021-22	80	57	56	114	116 (59G)​	0.72	1.42
Draisaitl	2022-23	80	52	76	128	131​	0.65	1.60

*indicates a season with less than 50 games played. Some point totals are off by 1 due to rounding.

Outside of Gretzky & Lemieux only 11 seasons adjust to 146 points or more(prorated to 82 games) and two of those were half seasons. Only a single season has a higher points per game - Esposito in 70-71 which is the only season outside of Gretzky or Lemieux which adjusts to more than 152 points. McDavid has 5 seasons which adjust to a 130+ point pace, this is the same number Esposito and Jagr, only Gretzky(11) & Lemieux(8) have more.

Because McDavid has scored a higher % of points than usual on the powerplay if you convert his numbers to a higher powerplay scoring season his numbers will adjust higher; For instance converted to 1995-96 his '21 season prorates to 52G 178 PT's while his '23 season prorates to 72G 177PT's(in 82 games) - Lemieux's 95-96 82gm pace was 81G 189PT's. But if you convert McDavid's numbers to a lower powerplay scoring year his numbers will adjust lower. Converted to last seasons scoring rates his '21 season prorates to 50G 160 PT's while his '23 season prorates to 64G 149PT's in 82. McDavid's actual 2021-22 total was 44G 123PT's in 80gm, adjust to 82gm that's 126PT's. So while on paper he is projected to score 32 more points than he did last season, if given the same circumstances and games played he more than likely would have scored more points last season as the adjust difference is only 23 less points.

Only 14 seasons adjust to more than 140 points at this seasons Even Strength, Powerplay & Shorthanded scoring levels, McDavid's is currently tied for 12th and pretty much assured to end up in the top 10 finished 8th all time.

Rank​	Player​	Season​	PT's​	Games​
1​	Gretzky​	1985-86​	169​	80​
2​	Gretzky​	1984-85​	167​	80​
3​	Gretzky​	1981-82​	166​	80​
4​	Gretzky​	1983-84​	161​	74​
5​	Gretzky​	1982-83​	159​	80​
6​	Lemieux​	1988-89​	157​	76​
7​	Gretzky​	1986-87​	156​	79​
8​	McDavid	2022-23	153	82​
9​	Esposito​	1970-71​	152​	78​
10​	Jagr​	1998-99​	150​	81​
11​	Jagr​	1995-96​	148​	82​
12​	Lemieux​	1995-96​	147​	70​
13​	Gretzky​	1990-91​	146​	78​
14​	Esposito​	1973-74​	144​	78​

Points per game wise his season holds up almost as good, currently ranking 13th with his 2020-21 season ranking 8th.
Only 27 seasons in NHL history adjust to 140 points in today's scoring environment(min 50 games played).

Rank​	Player​	Season​	PPG​	82 gm pace​	Games​
1​	Lemieux​	1992-93​	2.25​	184​	60​
2​	Gretzky​	1983-84​	2.18​	178​	74​
3​	Gretzky​	1985-86​	2.11​	173​	80​
4​	Lemieux​	1995-96​	2.10​	172​	70​
5​	Gretzky​	1984-85​	2.09​	171​	80​
6​	Gretzky​	1981-82​	2.08​	170​	80​
7​	Lemieux​	1988-89​	2.06​	169​	76​
8​	McDavid​	2020-21​	2.01​	164​	56​
9​	Gretzky​	1982-83​	1.98​	163​	80​
10​	Gretzky​	1986-87​	1.97​	161​	79​
11​	Esposito​	1970-71​	1.95​	160​	78​
12​	Gretzky​	1987-88​	1.93​	158​	64​
13​	McDavid​	2022-23​	1.87​	153​	82​
14​	Gretzky​	1990-91​	1.87​	153​	78​
15​	Esposito​	1973-74​	1.84​	151​	78​
16​	Jagr​	1998-99​	1.85​	151​	81​
17​	Esposito​	1968-69​	1.81​	148​	74​
18​	Jagr​	1995-96​	1.80​	148​	82​
19​	Howe​	1952-53​	1.79​	147​	70​
20​	Esposito​	1971-72​	1.780​	146​	76​
21​	Ratelle​	1971-72​	1.777​	146​	63​
22​	Orr​	1970-71​	1.775​	146​	78​
23​	Lemieux​	1991-92​	1.77​	145​	64​
24​	Gretzky​	1988-89​	1.75​	144​	78​
25​	Jagr​	1999-00​	1.74​	143​	63​
26​	Lemieux​	1989-90​	1.72​	141​	59​
27​	Malkin​	2011-12​	1.71​	140​	75​

Lemieux's 2000-01 season adjusts to 1.94 but with only 43 games played, Crosby's 2010-11 adjusts to 1.84 but with only 41 games played, Forsberg's 2003-04 season adjusts to 1.80 but with only 39 games played.


In any case I have to thoroughly applaud McDavid for his performance this season. I was expecting a 130 point season from him but he easily surpassed those expectations. In hindsight it should not have been surprising considering great playoff runs are predictors of huge season performances the following year.

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[ChiTownPhilly]

Conceptually, applying this metric to Forwards has parallels to applying 'Goals Saved Above Average' to Goaltenders. Similar advantages- similar disadvantages.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

McDavid won’t be goat.

Thanks for confirming this.

 

[Peiskos]

McDavid won’t be goat.

Thanks for confirming this.

Modern era goat.

 

[LTIR]

Modern era goat.

That would be gomet or GOME

 

[Chet Manley]

Modern era goat.

When did the modern era start?

 

[Peiskos]

When did the modern era start?

We can firmly say goat of the 21st century.

 

[morehockeystats]

We can firmly say goat of the 21st century.

The "at" in Goat ...

 

[Michael Farkas]

When did the modern era start?

Apparently it started after McDavid's first Hart...

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

The "at" in Goat ...

Normally I’d post something like this and assume people will get it but in this case I feel like it has to be explained that GOAT stands for Greatest of All Time and so things like “modern era” and “21st century” are not appropriate modifiers for GOAT as they by their very nature are not “all time.”

 

[Peiskos]

The "at" in Goat ...

Meh a goat for every century seems acceptable. We have 77 years to see if anyone can overtake McDavid as the 21st centuries best player ever.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Meh a goat for every century seems acceptable.

You can have a "Player of the Century" if you'd like. GOATs are, by definition, not constrained by the calendar.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Normally I’d post something like this and assume people will get it but in this case I feel like it has to be explained that GOAT stands for Greatest of All Time and so things like “modern era” and “21st century” are not appropriate modifiers for GOAT as they by their very nature are not “all time.”

Sure, and all time has not been played out yet. To our knowledge anyway
It is the greatest so far.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Sure, and all time has not been played out yet. To our knowledge anyway
It is the greatest so far.

Doesn’t change the context of my post or the errors it was pointing out.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Doesn’t change the context of my post or the errors it was pointing out.

Did someone claim that it did?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Did someone claim that it did?

I don’t know, so I employed the same tactic I did earlier for this thread.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I don’t know, so I employed the same tactic I did earlier for this thread.

What tactic is that?

 

[Dingo]

Wonderful stuff. Thank you so much.

I do think the only thing unaccounted for is league parity, which isn’t mathematically approachable, i dont think. Perhaps if the top 10 teams are focused on it might be differen.

As is, I think that modern, as in post salary cap, players, will always have a harder time standing out. And I think it is the reason for Esposito being SO high, and for Ratelle being VERY high.

Anyways, much appreciated.

Side note - I knew Forsberg’s one brilliant year was second-to-top-notch, especially on a per game basis. I can’t take his 39 game season seriously, nor Sid’s 41. Unlike Forsberg, I dont think Sid ever had one full season at his very best, which is funny because he has been much healthier and longer lived overall…. Just not at peak.

 

[kugelbahn]

Cools stuff but are you sure all is accurate, eg

Crosby

2006-07

79

38

82

120

vs

Ovechkin

2007-08

82

74

54

129

I know Ovi had higher peak but him beating Crosby in adjusted point is surpising.
So peak points since lockout:
McD
Kuch
Ovi
Drai
Crosby

right?

 

[authentic]

Cools stuff but are you sure all is accurate, eg

Crosby

2006-07

79

38

82

120

vs

Ovechkin

2007-08

82

74

54

129

I know Ovi had higher peak but him beating Crosby in adjusted point is surpising.
So peak points since lockout:
McD
Kuch
Ovi
Drai
Crosby

right?

That's only considering Crosby's full season. If you take his actual peak level of play, from 2010-11 to 2012-13, 99 games, 159 points in an NHL that average 2.7 goals per game, instead of 3.14, then you would have something like 185 points adjusted to the scoring levels of today, which would be about 152 points over 82 games, so basically identical to McDavid's current season, except it's broken up over 3 shortened seasons and it's not adjusting to ES and PP scoring levels separately but just the overall league average. I don't think the result would change much though, perhaps OP could try it out and see.

Crosby also had a pretty dominant 2nd half of 2009-10 and first half of 2013-14, he just unfortunately never put together two halfs like this in a full season due to injuries at his peak.

 

[kugelbahn]

That's only considering Crosby's full season. If you take his actual peak level of play, from 2010-11 to 2012-13, 99 games, 159 points in an NHL that average 2.7 goals per game, instead of 3.14, then you would have something like 185 points adjusted to the scoring levels of today, which would be about 152 points over 82 games, so basically identical to McDavid's current season, except it's broken up over 3 shortened seasons and it's not adjusting to ES and PP scoring levels separately but just the overall league average. I don't think the result would change much though, perhaps OP could try it out and see.

Crosby also had a pretty dominant 2nd half of 2009-10 and first half of 2013-14, he just unfortunately never put together two halfs like this in a full season due to injuries at his peak.

I know about PPPG (Partial seasons PPG) theory

I meant specifically
06-07 vs 07-08 year
2.91 vs 2.78 goals per game
120 adjusted to 120 for Crosby vs 112 adjusted to 129 for Ovi
Ratios do not quite make sense...

 

[authentic]

I know about PPPG (Partial seasons PPG) theory

I meant specifically
06-07 vs 07-08 year
2.91 vs 2.78 goals per game
120 adjusted to 120 for Crosby vs 112 adjusted to 129 for Ovi
Ratios do not quite make sense...

Crosby had more than half his points on the powerplay, since he adjusted for ES and PP separately that has something to do with.

 

[kugelbahn]

Crosby had more than half his points on the powerplay, since he adjusted for ES and PP separately that has something to do with.

Yeah, impact of PP/ES vs totals adjustment seems to be surprisingly high for these two friends, just caught my eye. As Ovi fan, I will take it

 

[kugelbahn]

OP, can you adjust for secondary assists next?

 

[TheStatican]

Cools stuff but are you sure all is accurate, eg

Crosby

2006-07

79

38

82

120

vs

Ovechkin

2007-08

82

74

54

129

I know Ovi had higher peak but him beating Crosby in adjusted point is surpising.
So peak points since lockout:
McD
Kuch
Ovi
Drai
Crosby

right?

Keep in mind all these points are adjusted to scoring rates for this season only. When you make adjustments using ES, PP & SH separately there can be dramatic differences based on the ES, PP & SH scoring levels of the season you are adjusting to. A player who scores more on the powerplay will end up having a higher adjusted point total relative to a player who has the exact same amount of points but scored more at even strength if the season you adjust scoring to has a higher rate of powerplay goals per game. And the opposite will be true if the season you are adjusting too has a lower number of powerplay goals per game.

By all means it's not something that we should take as an absolute fact, it's just an interesting consideration. Chances are peak Gretzky is not going to end up with exactly 169 points if he played this season. There's a lot more to consider than just adjusting for scoring - though I would say that it's fair to say, that in his best year he probably scores in the range of 160 to 180 points with today's scoring levels, on a similarly great team as his Oilers of the 80's and if he trained in the same way todays players train, which he obviously would.

OP, can you adjust for secondary assists next?

Damnit man, do you not realize how long this chart took me to make already!?