Prospect Info: May 2023 Red Wings Prospect voting #6
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jaster
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OgeeOgelthorpe
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Albert Johansson
Closest to becoming a full timer of the guys left. And with Grand Rapids having a new coach I'm hopeful that AlJo will rediscover his puck rushing and offensive abilities.
Closest to becoming a full timer of the guys left. And with Grand Rapids having a new coach I'm hopeful that AlJo will rediscover his puck rushing and offensive abilities.
Henkka
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U24 update:
Berggren 22y -- Kasper 19y -- Raymond 21y
XXX ------ Rasmussen 24y --- Mazur 21y
Veleno 23y ------- XXX ------ Zadina 23y
XXX - XXX - XXX
Edvinsson 20y -- Seider 22y
Wallinder 20y -- XXX
XXX --- XXX
Cossa 20y
XXX
These are graduated and already voted guys.
Using U25 does not make any difference and U23 excludes only Rasmussen.
Let's see how the "lineup" will progress. I'll add guys after every voting round.
Berggren 22y -- Kasper 19y -- Raymond 21y
XXX ------ Rasmussen 24y --- Mazur 21y
Veleno 23y ------- XXX ------ Zadina 23y
XXX - XXX - XXX
Edvinsson 20y -- Seider 22y
Wallinder 20y -- XXX
XXX --- XXX
Cossa 20y
XXX
These are graduated and already voted guys.
Using U25 does not make any difference and U23 excludes only Rasmussen.
Let's see how the "lineup" will progress. I'll add guys after every voting round.
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Detroit Knights
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Closer than Soderblom??
I chose Soderblom because when he was playing, something was happening while he was on the ice. Making those quick stickhandling moves to change direction and getting a shot off at his size is unheard of unless your Tage Thompson I presume.
Also, chose Soderblom over AlJo because Soderblom has played and played well before he got injured at the NHL level. Haven't seen AlJo against NHL players. AlJo is my next pick though.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Soderblom's skating, off-puck and defensive play still leaves something to be desired. I think Soderblom could become a guy that scores a lot of goals in the NHL but is still a bit of a project. The hands of a 30 goalscorer but there is a lot more he can work on to be more involved in the play, and his skating is still a weakpoint in his game.
If I'm looking for NHL comparables, I look at some older hulking forward types. Freddy Modin, Eric Daze and Glen Murray.
Albert Johansson is an absolutely phenomenal skater. His stickhandling and shot are also top notch. He was even showing some decent physicality in his last SHL season. Not as much in the AHL, which was disappointing. In my estimation AlJo's biggest weaknesses are his size (he is SKINNY) and his passing reads in the neutral zone. In his own zone and in the offensive zone with the puck he's pretty good. But he'll sometimes try to beat trap teams all by himself which you just can't do on smaller North American ice.
My comparison for him right now is Sam Girard but more physical. He could develop into a poor man's Kronwall, or maybe just as good as Kronwall was.
AlJo
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Soderblom
And I wouldn’t be shocked to see Soderblom continue to be caught by younger or less heralded prospects. I’m very tepid on Soderblom’s long term outlook.
Amadeus
Soderblom
And I wouldn’t be shocked to see Soderblom continue to be caught by younger or less heralded prospects. I’m very tepid on Soderblom’s long term outlook.
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AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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lilidk
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If he didn't get injured he played last season couple of games for Red Wings.
RabidBadger
Mazur detractors will look like dummies!
That's what I'm screaming my Iggy Pop quoting brother..."The Passenger" reference was amazing in a previous post. Anyway, I wasn't paying attention and didn't notice Boomer wasn't on the list. I strongly second that add.
I went AlJo this round. I was tempted to pick him last round, and, to be fair, I may not have because I've followed Mazur a lot more. If he hits he could make a realgud mid pairing dude.
Frk It
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Johansson had a pretty underwhelming year in the AHL (especially given his hype on this board) and Elmer showed some flashes at the NHL level.
Couldn’t tell you why Johansson is getting votes over Elmer.
Cross Hanas was making more of an impact in Grand Rapids than Johansson was until he got hurt. And he won’t get any votes in these polls, already know that.
Couldn’t tell you why Johansson is getting votes over Elmer.
Cross Hanas was making more of an impact in Grand Rapids than Johansson was until he got hurt. And he won’t get any votes in these polls, already know that.
jaster
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That’s because Cross Hanas is already an excellent minor league hockey player. Which he’ll remain. For many years. Because he can’t skate.
Go Wings
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I went with Lombardi on this one. As much as I like AlJo and Elmer i think Lombardi has higher potential then both of them.
The Zermanator
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I didn't see the deficit in his skating as being anything more than a 6'8 gangly giant who needs to fill out and get used to his body. He's actually shown he can move quite well, impressively so for someone his size. I remember seeing lots of clips of him skating circles around others and stickhandling in tight when he played in Sweden. Remember Rasmussen was slipping and sliding and getting knocked over easily his first year or two in the league. But he's found his legs and now there are no concerns there. I'm confident Soderblom will be just fine once he grows into his body.
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Mo Seider Less Problems
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Was pretty impactful in the AHL for a 20/21 year old who “can’t skate”. Not that easy to do. He’s 6’1 and has some skill. We will see.
Christien
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Went with Elmer on this one.
From the few games Hanas played this season, his hockey sense and skill stood out. Hopefully, he has a good summer and comes back a lot stronger. He's a competitive kid, too. I'm excited to see what he can do next season.
From the few games Hanas played this season, his hockey sense and skill stood out. Hopefully, he has a good summer and comes back a lot stronger. He's a competitive kid, too. I'm excited to see what he can do next season.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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I think Soderblom I’d further along in his skating than Ras at the same age, but it’s still not great. If he can improve it I’d swap my vote.
izlez
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I missed a lot of these early votes, but after going back and reading through, I am in full support of this Mazur at #3 crusade
I don't see it either. Since we've drafted him there have been people in here criticizing his skating. I don't get it. He moves really really well for a 6'8 gangly giant like you said.
newfy
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There was a lot of praise for Johansson coming out of GR this year, I'm not sure I would call his season underwhelming at all. Maybe production wise, but thats not really his calling card anyways. I would say his season was pretty much what was expected for right around this ranking but not really gonna argue against Soderblom either. Soderbloms offense in GR should make you wonder if Johanssons could be higher toot hough. In his time with Detroit he was as productive as he was in GR. Weird how he didnt produce more when he went down.
Hanas actually turned himself into a prety solid prospect this year, and was also more impactful than Soderblom as well down there. I dont think Hanas should be voted in here quite yet, but I dont think we're far off of voting for him at this point
