Prospect Info: May 2023 Red Wings Prospect voting #4
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By a thin margin I'm going for Willy Wally. He's taken massive strides to becoming a real high end D. There's still warts to his game but he's no longer the rough-around-the-edges type he was on draft day. His ability to gain the zone with the puck on his stick might be second to none in our entire prospect pipeline, if not in the org in general. Really excited for him to get a chance this training camp.
Soda and Mazur are right there though for me, with Johansson not far behind. We have such an exciting prospect pool and this is when it's truly wide open. Add Gylander.
Soda and Mazur are right there though for me, with Johansson not far behind. We have such an exciting prospect pool and this is when it's truly wide open. Add Gylander.
Wallinder
Johansson next, this will be his last year on the list since he will be starting in Detroit next year with Edvinsson still rehabing.
Johansson next, this will be his last year on the list since he will be starting in Detroit next year with Edvinsson still rehabing.
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This one is close but I have to give it to Mazur for what he brings to the table. Detroit hasn't had a prospect like him since Bertuzzi and those type of rink rats are rare and quite valueable
Pavels Dog
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Big fan of Wallinder but Mazur is getting underrated. He's probably a dark horse to make the roster out of camp given how easily he's adapted to the pro game already.
Henkka
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U24 update:
Berggren 22y - Kasper 19y - Raymond 21y
Veleno 23y - Rasmussen 24y - Zadina 23y
XXX - XXX - XXX
XXX - XXX - XXX
Edvinsson 20y - Seider 22y
XXX - XXX
XXX - XXX
Cossa 20y
XXX
These are graduated and already voted guys.
Using U25 does not make any difference and U23 excludes only Rasmussen.
Let's see how the "lineup" will progress. I'll add guys after every voting round.
Berggren 22y - Kasper 19y - Raymond 21y
Veleno 23y - Rasmussen 24y - Zadina 23y
XXX - XXX - XXX
XXX - XXX - XXX
Edvinsson 20y - Seider 22y
XXX - XXX
XXX - XXX
Cossa 20y
XXX
These are graduated and already voted guys.
Using U25 does not make any difference and U23 excludes only Rasmussen.
Let's see how the "lineup" will progress. I'll add guys after every voting round.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Here you go, fam.
Dude should have been #3 but people love the ECHL goalie.
EDIT: Fixed the link.
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dtown77
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Here you go, fam.
Dude should have been #3 but people love the ECHL goalie.
lol made me chuckle. I think people just want to believe in Cossa so bad. Me included
OgeeOgelthorpe
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I do too, but right now he's dominating the ECHL, which I'd be lying if I didn't think it was worse overall competition than the QMJHL and weaker than his division in 2021 (which is all he played against in his draft year). When we see him have a successful AHL campaign then I'll believe a little harder.
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So what are we hoping to see him do in camp? Is he AHL bound or is he good enough to f*** around and find out about the NHL?
OgeeOgelthorpe
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Darkhorse for the NHL with Edvinsson's injury going into the start of the year. Likely a GRG for the majority of the season, if not the whole season.
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OgeeOgelthorpe
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ECHL is the minor league of the minor leagues. It's not a great league, my dude. It's where guys that can't cut it in Europe or the AHL go to make 25k to 50k a year playing hockey. Mostly guys that got drafted WAY late, were guys low in the lineup of their CHL/USHL teams. Have good players passed through there? Some, but very few.
ECHL Alumni
Aside from a handful of goalies there's not many very good players that passed through the ECHL.
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What Hockey League Pays the Most? (Top 5 Highest Paying Leagues) | Hockey Question
That's minor league in Poland pay. It's fun to go to the games but it's not a very good league.
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Edit: It also bothers me that I can never figure out which gifs embed properly and which gifs don't. Alas.
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Detroit Knights
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I literally just get the embed link copied, paste it in here and then delete everything in that link except for the second link in the embed.
Edit: It also bothers me that I can never figure out which gifs embed properly and which gifs don't. Alas.
Got to be an easier way but, eh whatever.
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ricky0034
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you're still comparing a mens league to a junior league
there's lots of room for someone in their mid 20s to have less long term potential but still be a better hockey player currently than a bunch of teenagers, take any of these guys putting up good numbers in the ECHL and stick them as-is in the QMJHL and they'd flat out dominate even though most of them don't really have any long term NHL potential
jaster
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Yes, the ECHL is not great, but neither is the Q. And were talking kids vs men. Most players who play in the Q never go on to even play in the ECHL. People get distracted because there are NHLers drafted out of the Q and some go on to be stars (while no stars come out of the ECHL), but that's just the very small tip of the iceberg in that league. Many top scorers in the Q go on to play several seasons in the ECHL. And another huge chunk of those kids never go on to play meaningful hockey again, not even in the Coast.
