Music: Massive injuries and reported Riot at Astroworld

[TeddyBare]

-50,000 tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes for this event.
-apparently 5 thousand more people illegally entered that bum rushed an open VIP area
-100’s of cardiac arrests
This sounds like a complete tragedy
Day 2 cancelled
300 rushed to hospital
(Edit) now reported 500-600 in hospital

this was earlier getting in

https://mobile.twitter.com/MycahABC13/status/1456704812456845316

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[SniperHF]

Seems like utter chaos. Well except that there were almost certainly instigators/agitators.

Reports are all over the place on what exactly happened.

 

[Btlegend082]

8 dead, numerous injured at Astroworld Festival in Houston | 8News

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

RIP to all victims. Concerts are supposed to be happy and fun.

Reminds me of The Who concert tragedy in ‘79

 

[GKJ]

Lawsuits for years especially since they didn’t stop the show and organizers knew about it. Also didn’t seem to be adequate AED’s and such nor access to them.

 

[Smoke]

The video of Scott standing there staring at someone lying on the ground and then continuing to sing is... yikes.

 

[Satans Hockey]

The video of Scott standing there staring at someone lying on the ground and then continuing to sing is... yikes.

Apparently he did call for help right before that. Really seems like they were super unprepared security and medical wise. That storming of the gates didn't help in terms of this being overcrowded. Just an absolute shame that all these people died and were injured at a place that is supposed to be a fun time.

 

[holy]

Right after he drops a song called Escape Plan. These guys Satanists fr.

 

[belair]

Travis Scott is one dumb motherf***er. Those clowns that jumped on to the roof of the EMT vehicles should be charged as well.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Guy should catch a charge. He is blatantly an absolute piece of shit and openly encourages this kind of stuff.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Guy should catch a charge. He is blatantly an absolute piece of shit and openly encourages this kind of stuff.

Exactly.

Give him the Randy Blythe treatment (by locking him up in a prison hellhole) for a few months.

Unlike Randy however whom was completely innocent, this talentless shitbag deserves to be proven guilty.

 

[chicagoskycam]

Honestly, this could probably happen at any show if enough people decide to rush the stage. Once you start pushing people in front of you they have nowhere to go. Assigned seats/standing area would help.

 

[Hammettf2b]

Guy should catch a charge. He is blatantly an absolute piece of shit and openly encourages this kind of stuff.

I've never heard of this guy before this. What did he do? Is he in trouble with the police?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Honestly, this could probably happen at any show if enough people decide to rush the stage. Once you start pushing people in front of you they have nowhere to go. Assigned seats/standing area would help.

This has been an issue for decades and it's amazing we're still dealing with it. I enjoy a crowd as much as the next guy, I've been to my share of festivals, mosh pits, etc. But festival seating at a concert of that scale is just asking for people to get crushed.

IMO it's way, way past time to stop having these kinds of general admissions festivals without clear crowd-breaks. E.G., only a few hundred tickets sold for the pit, then a significant safety gap in front of the general crowd. If the venue can't handle that or if the crowd is expected to be too big to pull it off, then don't have festival seating.

 

[discostu]

This has been an issue for decades and it's amazing we're still dealing with it. I enjoy a crowd as much as the next guy, I've been to my share of festivals, mosh pits, etc. But festival seating at a concert of that scale is just asking for people to get crushed.

IMO it's way, way past time to stop having these kinds of general admissions festivals without clear crowd-breaks. E.G., only a few hundred tickets sold for the pit, then a significant safety gap in front of the general crowd. If the venue can't handle that or if the crowd is expected to be too big to pull it off, then don't have festival seating.

I watched the recent Woodstock 99 documentary, and I think it's really easy for these events to become big cash grabs that massively under invest in security and logistics.

I'm not sure how you regulate it though.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I watched the recent Woodstock 99 documentary, and I think it's really easy for these events to become big cash grabs that massively under invest in security and logistics.

I'm not sure how you regulate it though.

I mean, the easy way to regulate it is to ban festival seating. That's what Cincinnati did.

I don't want to see that happen, but it should be a basic expectation for a company/venue that professionally hosts concerts that they are able to prevent stampeding and systematically control the situation if it comes up. Simply having a funnel to a dead-end where people crush each other to death is unacceptable.

 

[evolutionbaby]

If the number of 5000 is correct, that show should never have happened, you have no idea what kind of contraband is let in, let alone the extra bodies.

As a massive fan of a band (Pearl Jam) that has suffered a similar tragedy in a sense, and have now witnessed what a festival should look like, this is 100% preventable. I believe they have a huge say and control of security measures at any festivals they now play. There are guards along the barriers every 4-5 feet (along with changing the barrier setups to avoid a big crush, Eddie has security patched in and can stop on a dime, you can see him and the members are constantly looking out with purpose to make sure it looks safe.

 

[chicagoskycam]

This has been an issue for decades and it's amazing we're still dealing with it. I enjoy a crowd as much as the next guy, I've been to my share of festivals, mosh pits, etc. But festival seating at a concert of that scale is just asking for people to get crushed.

IMO it's way, way past time to stop having these kinds of general admissions festivals without clear crowd-breaks. E.G., only a few hundred tickets sold for the pit, then a significant safety gap in front of the general crowd. If the venue can't handle that or if the crowd is expected to be too big to pull it off, then don't have festival seating.

Not to mention security is often a bunch of kids.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Not to mention security is often a bunch of kids.

Definitely. One of my first part-time jobs was as security at a concert venue. Fun job, nearly zero training, nearly zero expectation of handling real emergencies with competence. We see it in sporting venues all the time when fistfights go on for 5 minutes while they try to find the cops.

 

[Deen]

I still don't understand the appeal of Travis Scott. Kids act like he's Michael Jackson or something. His music is total trash and he seems like an imbecile. I really do not get the deal here with this guy. Cancel culture this dude and the Kardashians.

 

[chicagoskycam]

I still don't understand the appeal of Travis Scott. Kids act like he's Michael Jackson or something. His music is total trash and he seems like an imbecile. I really do not get the deal here with this guy. Cancel culture this dude and the Kardashians.

Music is always going to be subjective - that's really not the point here.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I still don't understand the appeal of Travis Scott. Kids act like he's Michael Jackson or something. His music is total trash and he seems like an imbecile. I really do not get the deal here with this guy. Cancel culture this dude and the Kardashians.

It's not like Michael Jackson's appeal wasn't questionable for a lot of people.

 

[Deen]

It's not like Michael Jackson's appeal wasn't questionable for a lot of people.

Jackson was at least talented. Can't deny that. This guy is just....

 

[TD Charlie]

If the number of 5000 is correct, that show should never have happened, you have no idea what kind of contraband is let in, let alone the extra bodies.

As a massive fan of a band (Pearl Jam) that has suffered a similar tragedy in a sense, and have now witnessed what a festival should look like, this is 100% preventable. I believe they have a huge say and control of security measures at any festivals they now play. There are guards along the barriers every 4-5 feet (along with changing the barrier setups to avoid a big crush, Eddie has security patched in and can stop on a dime, you can see him and the members are constantly looking out with purpose to make sure it looks safe.

That's exactly what I was thinking. You have to cancel the show at that point. 5k people bypassing security entirely can't be allowed.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Jackson was at least talented. Can't deny that. This guy is just....

Travis Scott is absolutely talented. He's not a singer/dancer like Jackson, but if you listen to his tracks the production and performance talent is obvious.