Marner Vs Marchand

[olli]

Who is the better player?

I personally think Marchand is still a bit better.

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[CatchyTune]

Marchand but not by alot.

and not for much longer

 

[Regal]

They're not that far apart, but I don't really see the argument for Marner. Marchand is a more rounded offensive player, is harder on the puck, more willing to go to the dirty areas, he can be a pest and get players off their games, is one of the best SH threats, has more experience and playoff success, and since Marner's breakout in '18-19, scores more and produces at better rates per game and at 5v5, ES and on the PP in terms of G/60, P/60 and P1/60, and has better underlying numbers (he also has better per game, rate and underlying numbers this season, and is only one point back). The only real advantage for Marner is probably that Marchand can be too undisciplined at times, but he also draws a ton more penalties, so their differential isn't too far apart.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

They're not that far apart, but I don't really see the argument for Marner. Marchand is a more rounded offensive player, is harder on the puck, more willing to go to the dirty areas, he can be a pest and get players off their games, is one of the best SH threats, has more experience and playoff success, and since Marner's breakout in '18-19, scores more and produces at better rates per game and at 5v5, ES and on the PP in terms of G/60, P/60 and P1/60, and has better underlying numbers (he also has better per game, rate and underlying numbers this season, and is only one point back). The only real advantage for Marner is probably that Marchand can be too undisciplined at times, but he also draws a ton more penalties, so their differential isn't too far apart.

You have to figure in linemates as well. Marner didn't always have Matthews. To add Marchand has been amazing with 2 other stars and arguably the best line in hockey.

Still Marchy by a hair though. I wanna see a strong playoff performance from Marner.

 

[Regal]

You have to figure in linemates as well. Marner didn't always have Matthews. To add Marchand has been amazing with 2 other stars and arguably the best line in hockey.

Still Marchy by a hair though. I wanna see a strong playoff performance from Marner.

That is a factor, for sure, and hard to factor in, but I think their PP teammates are pretty similar and Marchand still has slightly better rates when accounting for secondary assists at 5v5 which is where I generally think where you'd benefit most from playing with two other stars as opposed to one. Marchand's P/60 and P1/60 at 5v5 the past two years is also still higher than Marner's P/60 5v5 in just his minutes with Matthews.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Very close. IDK

 

[Kaner9]

Marchand BUT I say Marner passes him by the end of next season. Its getting close.

 

[McVespa99]

IDK who is better but I would take Marchand on my team ahead of Marner.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Marner is the correct answer. He has jaw dropping ability. Marchand is no slouch either but Marner has done all this by age 23. Marchand doesn't come close to that in his career.

 

[Iapyi]

Well I'm a Maple Leafs fan and I believe he is the straw that stirs our drink. I voted Marchand.

 

[Garthinater]

Marner but close.

Crazy how good Marchand turned out.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Face licker. Not close.

 

[hamzarocks]

Voted marchand even though it's super close

If marner has a dominant playoff run and helps the leafs win the cup I'll have him as 2nd best winger in the game after Kucherov

 

[Bizzare]

Voted marchand even though it's super close

If marner has a dominant playoff run and helps the leafs win the cup I'll have him as 2nd best winger in the game after Kucherov

Well that escalated quickly

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Marner is the correct answer. He has jaw dropping ability. Marchand is no slouch either but Marner has done all this by age 23. Marchand doesn't come close to that in his career.

The bolded has absolutely no relevance regarding OP's question.

 

[6ix]

If I had the pick between Marner or Marchand for this years playoffs, I’d take Marchand.

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

Well that escalated quickly

LOL same

 

[Holymakinaw]

The bolded has absolutely no relevance regarding OP's question.

I think a player's career is VERY relevant when asking "who is better". LOL.

Marchand is in the final stages of his, and Marner just started his a few years ago.

Marner had the much better start to that career......is the better player RIGHT NOW(as evidenced hy his position in the points race)........and looks to be on a higher trajectory than Marchand for the future.

But I'm not at all surprised by the poll results, because well.....

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Hm pretty good poll ....

I don’t think marner gets enough respect, and kinda seen as matthews side kick. I also think Marchand gets overlooked because of his extra stuff.

I think for a playoff matchup give me Marchand, but if I’m starting a team I prob take marner. I think I’d call em pretty even.

not going to vote cause I think it’s too close to pick one but I do like the idea of the poll

 

[shaner82]

If I had the pick between Marner or Marchand for this years playoffs, I’d take Marchand.

Yep. I think most leaf fans would

 

[NyQuil]

Still Marchand I think but maybe not for too long.

 

[Baksfamous112]

This is a very close call to me but I have to go with Marner. Too skilled.

 

[BlueBaron]

Raw skill probably favors Marner but Marchand is a special kind of player. Too close to vote.

 

[Sting]

I think a player's career is VERY relevant when asking "who is better". LOL.

Marchand is in the final stages of his, and Marner just started his a few years ago.

Marner had the much better start to that career......is the better player RIGHT NOW(as evidenced hy his position in the points race)........and looks to be on a higher trajectory than Marchand for the future.

But I'm not at all surprised by the poll results, because well.....

Development / career progression is not linear. Marchand was a good player for much of his career, then something clicked and he became a top 10 player.

Marner quite obviously has had a better start to his career and is about to hit 24. He hasn't really accomplished or proven much of anything. By 24, Marchand had two long playoff runs where he was a key contributor, including a 22 year old season where he was nearly a PPG in their Cup run.

There's also more to a player than pure offensive talent. Marchand brings an element of grit/attitude that Marner obviously does not.

 

[Holymakinaw]

There's also more to a player than pure offensive talent. Marchand brings an element of grit/attitude that Marner obviously does not.

And Marner is already a great player defensively, which obviously Marchand is not as good at.