Marlies Discussion: Marlies sign Richard Clune, Leafs inv to Training Camp

TheOtherSide

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We are going to be Detroit North soon. Babcock also had former Nashville tough guy Jordin Tootoo while with the Red Wings. Tootoo had also had substance abuse issues during his career.
 

Pinkcat

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This could be one of the most significant moves, in terms of player development, that the organization could make.
A great role model for the younger Leafs players and prospects.
 

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This could be one of the most significant moves, in terms of player development, that the organization could make.
A great role model for the younger Leafs players and prospects.

A role model? Really? Let's not glorify Clune like people did with Keefe. Clune is a recovered alcoholic who isn't a very good player.. great. Being a recovered alcoholic doesn't make him a role model or a "great person". The Marlies needed some veteran grit and that is what Clune will provide.
 

PuckMagi

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This could be one of the most significant moves, in terms of player development, that the organization could make.
A great role model for the younger Leafs players and prospects.

A role model? Really? Let's not glorify Clune like people did with Keefe. Clune is a recovered alcoholic who isn't a very good player.. great. Being a recovered alcoholic doesn't make him a role model or a "great person". The Marlies needed some veteran grit and that is what Clune will provide.

I think he could be a good role model and a very positive influence on the younger guys.

I'm not glorifying him or condoning his earlier activities... but it's good to have a tough guy out with the kids who isn't drinking and doing stupid stuff all the time.

If your entire team is lined up at the bar doing shots of whisky all night... and maybe you feel like you've had enough to drink already, you could go chill with Clune and he'll make sure that there's no peer pressure on the young guys to drink and do drugs and party hard.

If you're out with a group of friends and someone orders a round of shots, no one likes to be the guy who "******* out" and bows out. But if one of the older, tougher, and more respected guys has already bowed out, but still there with the team having fun... it's a lot easier to say no when you're not the only one.
 

Fogelhund

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I am kind of scratching my head with what is going on with the Marlies.

Last week, this was announced.

Director of Hockey Operations & AHL Governor Brad Lynn announced today that the Toronto Marlies have agreed to terms with defencemen Andrew Campbell and Brenden Miller along with forwards Christopher Clapperton, Brett Findlay and Patrick Watling. Terms of the deals are not disclosed.

Campbell, 27, was drafted 74th overall by the Los Angeles Kings in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft after three seasons with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL). The Caledonia, Ontario native spent five seasons with the Manchester Monarchs (AHL), before making his NHL debut in 2013-14. The 64 defenceman most recently split time between the Arizona Coyotes and Portland Pirates (AHL) last season. In 36 career NHL games, Campbell has recorded one assist and 10 penalty minutes.

Miller, 21, is a 6'1 defenceman who spent the last 5 seasons in the OHL, splitting time between the North Bay/Brampton Battalion. Undrafted, the Orangeville, Ontario native set highs in goals (19), assists (36) and points (55) while contributing 12 points in 15 playoff games this past season with North Bay.

Clapperton, 21, was a 2013 fifth round draft selection by the Florida Panthers. The 5'10 left winger has spent the past four years in the QMJHL playing three seasons for Blainville-Boisbriand Armada and last season with the Rimouski Oceanic. The Cap Espoir, PQ native set highs in career highs in goals (35), penalty minutes (77) along with playoff highs in goals (12), assists (13) and points (25) in 18 post season games this year. Clapperton was an assistant captain last season as a member of the QMJHL champion Rimouski Oceanic.

Findlay, 22, is returning to the Toronto Marlies after spending parts of last season with the team. The Echo Bay, Ontario native played 15 games for the Marlies while also playing 45 games with the Marlies ECHL affiliate the Orlando Solar Bears. Findlay, a 60 forward, enjoyed two seasons with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL) before ending his junior career with the Peterborough Petes (OHL).

Watling, 21, also returns to Toronto after splitting time last season between the Marlies and Orlando Solar Bears. In 15 games with the Marlies, the 60 forward scored one goal and added three assists while also contributing 41 points in 45 games for the Solar Bears. The Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario native played parts of three seasons with the Guelph Storm (OHL) before finishing his career with the his home town Greyhounds.

I suppose we can populate the ECHL affiliate, but given our number of prospects that need places to play too, it just seems like a lot of bodies.
 

Countryjunkie

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I love this signing. At the very least, it gives the Marlies a sheriff/enforcer type player to step up if other teams start taking liberties with our young players. Let's face it, William Nylander is of no use if he's sidelined with a concussion because opposing teams are allowed to manhandle our kids.
 

Anthrax442

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@TorontoMarlies: #MarliesLive News: The #Marlies have signed Rich Clune to an #AHL contract. http://t.co/6kwc40q7Le

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Drake744

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Preds fan here. Extremely happy that he was able to catch on somewhere. Good for him and good for you guys as well. Great character guy, as you all can tell.
 

Menzinger

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Clune has a great personal redemption story - could be a goid role modle for the younger guys.

I wish him all the best.
 

Paris in Flames

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A role model? Really? Let's not glorify Clune like people did with Keefe. Clune is a recovered alcoholic who isn't a very good player.. great. Being a recovered alcoholic doesn't make him a role model or a "great person". The Marlies needed some veteran grit and that is what Clune will provide.

Do not underestimate having a vet around who went down the wrong path. Having him around young guys who have money and access to anything they could possibly want is a solid thing.
 

jcfogerty

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I am kind of scratching my head with what is going on with the Marlies.

Last week, this was announced.

Director of Hockey Operations & AHL Governor Brad Lynn announced today that the Toronto Marlies have agreed to terms with defencemen Andrew Campbell and Brenden Miller along with forwards Christopher Clapperton, Brett Findlay and Patrick Watling. Terms of the deals are not disclosed.

Campbell, 27, was drafted 74th overall by the Los Angeles Kings in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft after three seasons with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL). The Caledonia, Ontario native spent five seasons with the Manchester Monarchs (AHL), before making his NHL debut in 2013-14. The 64 defenceman most recently split time between the Arizona Coyotes and Portland Pirates (AHL) last season. In 36 career NHL games, Campbell has recorded one assist and 10 penalty minutes.

Miller, 21, is a 6'1 defenceman who spent the last 5 seasons in the OHL, splitting time between the North Bay/Brampton Battalion. Undrafted, the Orangeville, Ontario native set highs in goals (19), assists (36) and points (55) while contributing 12 points in 15 playoff games this past season with North Bay.

Clapperton, 21, was a 2013 fifth round draft selection by the Florida Panthers. The 5'10 left winger has spent the past four years in the QMJHL playing three seasons for Blainville-Boisbriand Armada and last season with the Rimouski Oceanic. The Cap Espoir, PQ native set highs in career highs in goals (35), penalty minutes (77) along with playoff highs in goals (12), assists (13) and points (25) in 18 post season games this year. Clapperton was an assistant captain last season as a member of the QMJHL champion Rimouski Oceanic.

Findlay, 22, is returning to the Toronto Marlies after spending parts of last season with the team. The Echo Bay, Ontario native played 15 games for the Marlies while also playing 45 games with the Marlies ECHL affiliate the Orlando Solar Bears. Findlay, a 60 forward, enjoyed two seasons with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL) before ending his junior career with the Peterborough Petes (OHL).

Watling, 21, also returns to Toronto after splitting time last season between the Marlies and Orlando Solar Bears. In 15 games with the Marlies, the 60 forward scored one goal and added three assists while also contributing 41 points in 45 games for the Solar Bears. The Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario native played parts of three seasons with the Guelph Storm (OHL) before finishing his career with the his home town Greyhounds.

I suppose we can populate the ECHL affiliate, but given our number of prospects that need places to play too, it just seems like a lot of bodies.

Maybe.... They are filling the Marlies roster because some kids are going to get a real opportunity to stick with the big club.::::popcorn:
 

Leaf_Crazy

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Do not underestimate having a vet around who went down the wrong path. Having him around young guys who have money and access to anything they could possibly want is a solid thing.

Not to mention, they will respect him for speaking out and KNOW he is an excellent person who would understand them if they are going through troubles.
 

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I am kind of scratching my head with what is going on with the Marlies.

Last week, this was announced.

Director of Hockey Operations & AHL Governor Brad Lynn announced today that the Toronto Marlies have agreed to terms with defencemen Andrew Campbell and Brenden Miller along with forwards Christopher Clapperton, Brett Findlay and Patrick Watling. Terms of the deals are not disclosed.

Campbell, 27, was drafted 74th overall by the Los Angeles Kings in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft after three seasons with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL). The Caledonia, Ontario native spent five seasons with the Manchester Monarchs (AHL), before making his NHL debut in 2013-14. The 64 defenceman most recently split time between the Arizona Coyotes and Portland Pirates (AHL) last season. In 36 career NHL games, Campbell has recorded one assist and 10 penalty minutes.

Miller, 21, is a 6'1 defenceman who spent the last 5 seasons in the OHL, splitting time between the North Bay/Brampton Battalion. Undrafted, the Orangeville, Ontario native set highs in goals (19), assists (36) and points (55) while contributing 12 points in 15 playoff games this past season with North Bay.

Clapperton, 21, was a 2013 fifth round draft selection by the Florida Panthers. The 5'10 left winger has spent the past four years in the QMJHL playing three seasons for Blainville-Boisbriand Armada and last season with the Rimouski Oceanic. The Cap Espoir, PQ native set highs in career highs in goals (35), penalty minutes (77) along with playoff highs in goals (12), assists (13) and points (25) in 18 post season games this year. Clapperton was an assistant captain last season as a member of the QMJHL champion Rimouski Oceanic.

Findlay, 22, is returning to the Toronto Marlies after spending parts of last season with the team. The Echo Bay, Ontario native played 15 games for the Marlies while also playing 45 games with the Marlies ECHL affiliate the Orlando Solar Bears. Findlay, a 60 forward, enjoyed two seasons with the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL) before ending his junior career with the Peterborough Petes (OHL).

Watling, 21, also returns to Toronto after splitting time last season between the Marlies and Orlando Solar Bears. In 15 games with the Marlies, the 60 forward scored one goal and added three assists while also contributing 41 points in 45 games for the Solar Bears. The Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario native played parts of three seasons with the Guelph Storm (OHL) before finishing his career with the his home town Greyhounds.

I suppose we can populate the ECHL affiliate, but given our number of prospects that need places to play too, it just seems like a lot of bodies.

The AHL has a veteran rules of 5 players per team. Clune being seen as 1 of those vets.

To develop player you need to surround them with some vets to provide leadership and mentorship.

Clune and some you mentioned here are being used to create a competitive environment for Leafs prospects.

I think that some of these signings speak to the level of some of Leafs prospects of which I don't think Hunter and Dubas believe have much future potential. IMO

You can see with Biggs, McKegg, Ashton, Ross, Broll, Ryan, MacWilliam etc all dumped that clearing out the previous regime draft picks and prospect poll. I think there are still prospects in the system that will be forced out.
 

Quares27

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Maybe.... They are filling the Marlies roster because some kids are going to get a real opportunity to stick with the big club.::::popcorn:

We already have a full forward group and the spots open are for the 4th line which isnt really beneficial to our good forward prospects. Unless we trade 3 of our forwards or something like that

Anyway this is a meh signing. Basically a similar player to Sill. A smaller fighter who can put up some points. I probably would rather have Sill back
 

GoodNewfieBoy

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The AHL has a veteran rules of 5 players per team. Clune being seen as 1 of those vets.

To develop player you need to surround them with some vets to provide leadership and mentorship.

Clune and some you mentioned here are being used to create a competitive environment for Leafs prospects.

I think that some of these signings speak to the level of some of Leafs prospects of which I don't think Hunter and Dubas believe have much future potential. IMO

You can see with Biggs, McKegg, Ashton, Ross, Broll, Ryan, MacWilliam etc all dumped that clearing out the previous regime draft picks and prospect poll. I think there are still prospects in the system that will be forced out.

Look at that gunk we pulled out of the pipeline
 

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