Marc Methot Says That The Sens Are Not Even Close To The Playoffs

[frightenedinmatenum2]

We don't have a lot of players who stylistically would translate to playoff hockey.

We need more grit, size, and players who play big. Pierre Dorion built our team like a teenager on EA HUT.

 

[GCK]

Unpopular opinion incoming.

DJ was the right coach for 3 years, the problem is we needed a new coach for the next phase.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

K, good for him

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

This statement is the right attitude for starting next season.

No more… “we can do this” bullshit.

Time to level up by playing as underdogs. That is all the Sens ever were…. Pesky Sens

 

[BankStreetParade]

I bet if you add in playoff games (on par with regular season experience) it’s even more of a gap. Very little playoff games experience on our roster.

Really it just dovetails into what Staios has made an offseason priority: finding good veterans (aka experience).

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Unpopular opinion incoming.

DJ was the right coach for 3 years, the problem is we needed a new coach for the next phase.

I'll add it to the list

 

[bicboi64]

I think with better goaltending and coaching we'd have sneaked into the playoffs or been in the hunt the whole season, but I don't think this team is built to handle playoff hockey. We'd be lucky to push a team to 6 games.

It's just poorly constructed and the fixes we need aren't easy since what we need, a lot of other teams need:
-1A goalie capable of playing 40-50 games
-Top 4 RD
-A couple of solid middle 6 guys
-More vet presence that can contribute on the ice (not Hamonic)
-New coach

I'm hopeful because Staios can't possibly be worse than Dorion, but damn do we have a long way to go before we can have some success

 

[GCK]

I think with better goaltending and coaching we'd have sneaked into the playoffs or been in the hunt the whole season, but I don't think this team is built to handle playoff hockey. We'd be lucky to push a team to 6 games.

It's just poorly constructed and the fixes we need aren't easy since what we need, a lot of other teams need:
-1A goalie capable of playing 40-50 games
-Top 4 RD
-A couple of solid middle 6 guys
-More vet presence that can contribute on the ice (not Hamonic)
-New coach

I'm hopeful because Staios can't possibly be worse than Dorion, but damn do we have a long way to go before we can have some success

There isn’t enough cap space for all that.

If we get a #1 goalie and a true top 4 RD we are likely done.

 

[bicboi64]

There isn’t enough cap space for all that.

If we get a #1 goalie and a true top 4 RD we are likely done.

Not that I disagree, but some of the boxes can be checked off with one player. Like a top 4 RHD could be a good vet guy.

This is why I think it's going to be such a hard task for Staios (especially deciding who to move from our 'core'). I can only hope because hey, it can't possibly get worse.

 

[Tuna99]

Unpopular opinion incoming.

DJ was the right coach for 3 years, the problem is we needed a new coach for the next phase.

In terms of locker room drinking games - YES

In terms of teaching NHL hockey to
Our Players - NO

 

[GCK]

Not that I disagree, but some of the boxes can be checked off with one player. Like a top 4 RHD could be a good vet guy.

This is why I think it's going to be such a hard task for Staios (especially deciding who to move from our 'core'). I can only hope because hey, it can't possibly get worse.

I’m of the belief he is prioritizing Tanev to check two boxes.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I’m of the belief he is prioritizing Tanev to check two boxes.

I'd like to get him.. I think it will take an overpay in $ and term.
IMO there will be other better, competing teams that will give him 3 years at a competitive rate

 

[bicboi64]

One thing I like about Tanev is that even towards the end of his next deal, he'll probably be a fine 3RD and hopefully we can develop another top 4 guy by the time he declines

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Which is why I felt a player like Bertuzzi could help this team. This team has no jam. Zero. Batherson is soft. Brady, Tim (finishes his checks and will throw big ones), Greig, and that's it.

Bertuzzi is softer than his size and reputation makes him out to be. He’s not a force out there.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

You’d think that was a very easy thing to conclude, but reading you’d swear we were an 100+ point team with another goalie. It’s absolutely baffling to me.

No just in the running for the final wild card spot.

Not every team that makes the playoffs is built well.

Did you think Washington would be making the playoffs? Are they built well?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

there’s room for middle ground.

People see us missing a physical top 4 RD and a third line defnesie winger and say “this team stink we should be dead last!” Give me a break lmao. There are teams with missing pieces that make the playoffs. I think being so shit for so long as a lot of people thinking it’s “shit” or cup. I think it’s gonna be devastating to find out that even when we have those pieces we will still be out first round second round and will likely not win a cup.

 

[sabremike]

Your biggest problem is the same as ours: being stuck in the eternal Division Of Death.

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Ottawa will have a much better team than Toronto in two to three years. Won’t even be close.

 

[GCK]

Your biggest problem is the same as ours: being stuck in the eternal Division Of Death.

Both the Sens and Sabres have been clusterf***s for a long time. Bad management and meddling ownership.

 

[Tuna99]

Bertuzzi is softer than his size and reputation makes him out to be. He’s not a force out there.

also the wrong player for what they are trying to do - they don’t need hotheads that’ll cause distractions and fake urgency they are trying to teach guys like Brady to be under control and channel energy into focus. Betrtuzzi is a distraction I find, doesn’t always follow the pace of the game (Marchand being a master of this, Greig also showed this ability to turn it on and off at will)

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Also just a reminder that Marc Methot said this 3 years ago.



He's a former player and a damn good one at that but his takes, while hot, are not exactly gospel. He was a big DJ fan as well. Being a former player does not guarantee analytical excellence.

He's trolling leaf fans. He has laughed about it

 

[Alf Silfversson]

He's trolling leaf fans. He has laughed about it

That's fine. But if you want your opinions taken seriously don't admit to trolling.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Unpopular opinion incoming.

DJ was the right coach for 3 years, the problem is we needed a new coach for the next phase.

I don't see that as unpopular. With how it ended, I could see a lot disagreeing at this point, but a lot of people were screaming this after 3 years. Okay, time to level up to the next one sort of thing.

 

[Big Muddy]

I think with better goaltending and coaching we'd have sneaked into the playoffs or been in the hunt the whole season, but I don't think this team is built to handle playoff hockey. We'd be lucky to push a team to 6 games.

It's just poorly constructed and the fixes we need aren't easy since what we need, a lot of other teams need:
-1A goalie capable of playing 40-50 games
-Top 4 RD
-A couple of solid middle 6 guys
-More vet presence that can contribute on the ice (not Hamonic)
-New coach

I'm hopeful because Staios can't possibly be worse than Dorion, but damn do we have a long way to go before we can have some success

There isn’t enough cap space for all that.

If we get a #1 goalie and a true top 4 RD we are likely done.

Yep. After generating numerous spreadsheets, I think a top 4 RD, another mid priced goalie, and a middle six winger that is very moderately priced along with a new contract for Pinto of course is about the extent of what the budget will provide. I think some are averse to numbers/spreadsheets (or good equivalents) though.

 

[CDN24]

He's not wrong. The team as it sits today is not good enough, not nearly good enough. Thanks to years of PD pissing away draft capital they don't have the assets to get better via the trade route, it has to be free agency for the most part and there is not enough $$$ to do that.

Sure maybe you can trade Chychrun to recoup some assets and save a few dollars but there are too many holes to fill. Might be best to not do anything stupid by trading more futures and if team has to take another step sideways before moving forward so be it. They got in this mess trying to accelerate the process (Debrincat and Chychrun) notably.

Going to need some certainty on Norris before they can move forward. He almost needs to play a full season to prove he can stay healthy. what if he is not ready to go next season but is expected back in 3 months- where does that leave you. You get LTIR releif but you can't commit it to someone else for all season or multi seasons.

To get in the playoffs they have to pass Buffalo, Det and realistically one of Boston, Tampa, Fla or Toronto. Also have to stay ahead of Montreal. Maybe you can get WC2 out of metro but there are teams over there (jersey and Philly) that are likely better next season.