Proposal: Maatta to the Sabres

[Team Cozens]

Looking at the Pens, they need a 3C and a 2nd round draft pick.
They also need cap space to sign/pay Murray, Dumoulin, Sheary & Schultz.

IF Botterill is the Sabres new GM, he certainly knows what the Pens have and
what they need.

Sabres need D.

Maatta $4,083,333

for

Girgensons RFA (was $1,150,000)
2nd RD 2017 (Wild pick)
+ prospect

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[OCPenguin]

Looking at the Pens, they need a 3C and a 2nd round draft pick.
They also need cap space to sign/pay Murray, Dumoulin, Sheary & Schultz.

IF Botterill is the Sabres new GM, he certainly knows what the Pens have and
what they need.

Sabres need D.

Maatta $4,083,333

for

Girgensons RFA (was $1,150,000)
2nd RD 2017 (Wild pick)
+ prospect

This is a pass for me. Pittsburgh has a depth problem on D. The free agent pool is terrible as far as reconstructing the D. You need a decent Dman back.

Girgensons was once intriguing. Now, while young, back to back bad seasons ....

 

[wej20]

Girgensons looks more like a 4th line centre these days.

 

[Team Cozens]

This is a pass for me. Pittsburgh has a depth problem on D. The free agent pool is terrible as far as reconstructing the D. You need a decent Dman back.

Girgensons was once intriguing. Now, while young, back to back bad seasons ....

I hear what your saying about Girgs but you have to remember who his coach was the past 2 season. Remember Disco ?? Lol

Maatta has had his struggles as well. Both should excel on a new team.

Maybe the defensive prospect we throw in is Will Borgen?

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

my immediate positive reaction is a poor indication of the proposed value

 

[Patagonia]

Pens don't want that garbage. They have cap problems and depth on D, but the health of Crosby possibly another Forward.

Reinhart for Maatta.

 

[OCPenguin]

I hear what your saying about Girgs but you have to remember who his coach was the past 2 season. Remember Disco ?? Lol

Maatta has had his struggles as well. Both should excel on a new team.

Maybe the defensive prospect we throw in is Will Borgen?

Pittsburgh doesn't need a D prospect. We drafted four of six picks last year on D.

Trade Maatta, you have remaining Letang (injury waiting to happen), Dumo, Cole and Schultz. Every other Dman on the roster is a UFA ... Daley, Hainsey, Streit, even Ruhlwedel could be come and the free agent pool sucks. We don't have anyone ready to step in and that includes Derrick Pouliot.

I know all about Disco. He ruined Simon Despres.

By the way, I like Girgensons. He is from the same country my adopted son is from.

 

[SharkInABoloTie]

Pens don't want that garbage. They have cap problems and depth on D, but the health of Crosby possibly another Forward.

Reinhart for Maatta.

Maatta before his multiple injuries might have been worth Reinhart with a small add. But he hasn't been the same player since. If either of Dumoulin or Maatta aren't traded, one will be taken in the ED. So Pitt will either trade one for slightly less than they're worth, or take the L and lose one to LGK.

 

[TehDoak]

Pens don't want that garbage. They have cap problems and depth on D, but the health of Crosby possibly another Forward.

Reinhardt for Maatta.

Yeeeeeah no.

Maatta has seen a reduced role for the Pens over the last 3 seasons, including several nagging injuries. He still has 5 years and 20M+ on his contract.

 

[OCPenguin]

Yeeeeeah no.

Maatta has seen a reduced role for the Pens over the last 3 seasons, including several nagging injuries. He still has 5 years and 20M+ on his contract.

Nagging injuries ... sure.

Reduced role?

He is still a top four Dman. Please know what you are talking about before posting.

 

[TehDoak]

Nagging injuries ... sure.

Reduced role?

He is still a top four Dman. Please know what you are talking about before posting.

His TOI has decreased every year since 14-15. (20:43 in 2015, 19:58 in 2016, and 18:04 this year)

He's playing less than he used to.

Thus....he's played a reduced role.

Top 4 still? Sure. But, he is playing less.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

How bout Dumoulin+ for Nylander/Reinhart? Obviously the plus wouldn't be too big.

 

[Advanced stats]

Umm Pittsburgh doesn't need ****.

Their a legitimate cup contender every season.

They just need effective cap management and that comes from within..

 

[Big McLargehuge]

The problem with trading Määttä is that without him top 4 D instantly becomes the Penguins biggest need...and that's what Määttä is.

As such I can only see him being dealt in a 'change of scenery' type deal for another young top 4 defenseman...which probably takes Buffalo out of the conversation.

 

[SnoopDogg]

How bout Dumoulin+ for Nylander/Reinhart? Obviously the plus wouldn't be too big.

The plus would have to be bigger for Reinhart and Nylander isn't going anywhere because we need more skilled wingers like him

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

Aside from the value not being there, imo, I would decline.

The Pens need D so if Maatta is going out, a D should be coming back.

Also, the Pens will have some decent cap space this summer. MAF will be gone, Kunitz off the books. Right there that's almost $11mil.

 

[gdsmack267]

Aside from the value not being there, imo, I would decline.

The Pens need D so if Maatta is going out, a D should be coming back.

Also, the Pens will have some decent cap space this summer. MAF will be gone, Kunitz off the books. Right there that's almost $11mil.

Problem is expansion.

Pens are protecting Letang, Schultz and probably Dumo. So any #4 defender will be exposed and more than likely picked by Vegas.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Gudbranson for Maata?

 

[Son Goku]

Maatta before his multiple injuries might have been worth Reinhart with a small add. But he hasn't been the same player since. If either of Dumoulin or Maatta aren't traded, one will be taken in the ED. So Pitt will either trade one for slightly less than they're worth, or take the L and lose one to LGK.

Maatta's great he just doesn't fit our fast style unfortunately.

 

[Hockeygod66]

Gudbranson for Maata?

No way.

 

[Sabreality]

I actually think Girgensons would thrive in Sullivans system, more so than being 'just a 4th liner'. Theres still more to come from him.

I think theres more to come from Maatta too, so I understand Pens fans not wanting to move him for a 'maybe'

 

[Spazkat]

I know all about Disco. He ruined Simon Despres.

Nah, he was fantastic when we first got him- not even a little bit ruined. What happened was the Avs... The Barrie headshot followed up on his return by the crosscheck to the head from Landy is what ruined Despres. Well, that and the Pens somehow thinking it was Scuderi propping up Desi and not vice versa.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

No thanks. I'd take a flier on Girgs but not at the expense of Maatta.

We like him just fine. 22 year olds who can contribute in a contender's top 4 are rare, even if - gasp - they're playing fewer minutes than they had previous years.

 

[HaNotsri]

I think Matta for Bogo+++ could work out. Bogo should fit the Pens much better.
Problem is the absolutely terrible Bogo-contract.

Sabres doesn't really have anything that matches the value of Maata.

Hopefully our players will increase in value after being freed from Bylsma. Hard to trade when everyone is looking bad.

 

[Empoleon8771]

McCabe for Maatta is the only trade I'd do.