Proposal: Maatta - Shattenkirk

[jaystelestrator]

PIT gives up a young, cost controlled Dman with hopes that the saved money can be put toward a new Shattenkirk deal. STL gets a Dman who will be back for the playoffs who can help them both this year, and going forward. Thoughts?

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[stl76]

Blues don't need or want Maatta. No thank you.

 

[tfriede2]

Basically what the other poster said - it doesn't take into account the needs of the Blues. There's just no point in discussing this.

 

[JJTT]

Makes no sense for either team.

 

[Dying Alive]

Maatta for a rental without any guarantee of signing him? No way.

 

[TorstenFrings]

I don't get this fascination with Shattenkirk for Pittsburgh. Would he help just about every team in the coming playoffs? Certainly. But how is Pittsburgh affording a right-side D of Letang/Schultz/Shattenkirk beyond that? Or even just Letang and Shattenkirk tbh? This long-term benefit that makes trading Maatta for a rental worth it really escapes me.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Määttä for a rental...hell no.

 

[mwalluk]

Shattenkirk? That's a funny way to spell Duchene.....

 

[Oberyn]

Can't say i'm interested in Maatta in the slightest but Pens would also be foolish to trade him for Shattenkirk who they would likely view as a rental

 

[Ziggyjoe21]

Letang and Schultz are 2 of the best offensive Dmen in the NHL and Daley is more than competent in the offensive zone. Maatta for a rental is not smart at all.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Not even slightly interested in Maatta. It's the standard rental price for Shatty. First + solid prospect, with a potential conditional pick if he re-signs.

 

[SirPaste]

Not interested in Maata

 

[Dbrownss]

Dont want Maata.


Unless there aren't any teams in on Shattenkirk, he's not going to Pittsburgh. Their 1st and whatever prospect they can offer can be beaten by other teams.

 

[mwalluk]

Dont want Maata.


Unless there aren't any teams in on Shattenkirk, he's not going to Pittsburgh. Their 1st and whatever prospect they can offer can be beaten by other teams.

I wouldn't go that far. Technically Murray can still be considered a prospect. A 1st and Murray wouldn't be matched nor beat by any other team. Now by no means am I advocating trading Murray, let alone for a rental, just proving how fallacious your statement is.

 

[stl76]

I wouldn't go that far. Technically Murray can still be considered a prospect. A 1st and Murray wouldn't be matched nor beat by any other team. Now by no means am I advocating trading Murray, let alone for a rental, just proving how fallacious your statement is.

If you think Murray still counts a prospect then please by all means, offer him + PIT 1st for Shattenkirk

 

[mwalluk]

If you think Murray still counts a prospect then please by all means, offer him + PIT 1st for Shattenkirk

"A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club."

Please re-read my post. I specifically said I'm no advocating trading Murray, nor would I, nor am I a GM, just simply pointing out how fallacious the previous poster's statement was.

 

[SEALBound]

Pens decline immediately unless there is another significant asset coming back.

 

[Ctrain2k]

"A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club."

Please re-read my post. I specifically said I'm no advocating trading Murray, nor would I, nor am I a GM, just simply pointing out how fallacious the previous poster's statement was.

Murray's played in more than 45 games so still doesn't make sense.

 

[Pick87your71Poison]

"A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club."

Please re-read my post. I specifically said I'm no advocating trading Murray, nor would I, nor am I a GM, just simply pointing out how fallacious the previous poster's statement was.

Even by that measure, Murray has played 47 career regular season NHL games as well as the 21 playoff games. So, by your measure of 45 games for a goaltender before his 24th birthday, wouldn't Murray already not "officially" be a prospect?

 

[Riptide]

PIT gives up a young, cost controlled Dman with hopes that the saved money can be put toward a new Shattenkirk deal. STL gets a Dman who will be back for the playoffs who can help them both this year, and going forward. Thoughts?

Uhhh... Am I missing something here? Where's the incentive for Pittsburgh?

There's no way any GM would trade (in your words) "a young cost controlled Dman" for a pending FA. None. Especially when we already have two players who fit the mold of said Dman in Letang and Schultz.

 

[66-30-33]

Easy pass. Maatta will be had in a package for a big fish forward by the TD or the off season unless he's picked up off ED.

 

[Dbrownss]

I wouldn't go that far. Technically Murray can still be considered a prospect. A 1st and Murray wouldn't be matched nor beat by any other team. Now by no means am I advocating trading Murray, let alone for a rental, just proving how fallacious your statement is.

All I can do is sigh.....

 

[LarKing]

Are Blues fans counting on Shattenkirk leaving in free agency at this point?

 

[mwalluk]

Even by that measure, Murray has played 47 career regular season NHL games as well as the 21 playoff games. So, by your measure of 45 games for a goaltender before his 24th birthday, wouldn't Murray already not "officially" be a prospect?

considering this very site, not the board, but the actual site still lists him as a prospect.

 

[67Blues]

Are Blues fans counting on Shattenkirk leaving in free agency at this point?

Blues aren't going to open the checkbook for basically our 3rd best RHD. Petro and Parayko are better than Shattenkirk. If he was a LHD, then this wouldn't even be a discussion.

The Blues have larger holes to solve on their roster and some upcoming RFAs in the next 2 years that will eat up what would have to be spent on Shattenkirk.