bobholly39
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- Mar 10, 2013
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I didn't know what thread to post this in so i thought i'd create a new thread. Feel free to post your own questions and discuss any ambiguous answers. Thank you in advance for anyone able to answer some of these questions.
Here are a few scenarios/questions. Don't get too caught up in the scenarios that are far fetched - they're just meant as examples.
1. Team A decides to offer sheet Mitch Marner (over 10.5M$ - so 4 1st round picks). But they have already traded their 2020 1st round pick. Are they disqualified from the process? Or does it automatically bump down a year (2021, 22, 23 & 24)?
2. Team A decides to offer sheet Marner again. But - they have 2 1st round picks next year (their own, and another teams). Can they chose which of the 2 to offer - or is it automatically their own pick offered?
3. Team A decides to offer sheet Marner again - but they traded away their own 1st round 2020 pick, but have acquired another team's pick since then. Can this be used instead?
***To be clear - i understand that with offer sheets teams are allowed to negotiate. So Leafs and Team A could negotiate and agree to any of the above scenarios - my questions are more along the lines of if Leafs don't want to negotiate and try to block the offer sheet - what do the rules allows for vs not***
4. How far past the salary cap can you get and how long can you stay there for? Example. Tampa decides to sign both Duchene and Panarin on July 1st to 11M$ each. This puts them way over the cap. Is that fine - so long as Tampa clears the cap space in time for the start of season? Or can they not even do that?
5. When PK Subban signed his contract a few years ago he had a NMC. But he was traded right before it kicked in - which nullified his NMC clause (which is why Nashville just traded him easily, no NMC). Is that the standard for all contracts with a NMC? If you get traded before it kicks in it nullifies it - or was it some specific clause negotiated in PK's contract?
6. Sticking to NMC's - Crosby has one. Let's pretend Pittsburgh trades him to Chicago tomorrow (and he lifts his NMC to go). Does his NMC automatically get reinstated once in Chicago? Or is it only good for the team he signed with (Pitt) - and once he's traded away he goes back to having 0 NMC's in his contract?
7. If an offer sheet is made to Marner with a bunch of clauses (NMC's - signing bonuses and whatever else you can throw in that's not standard) - and the Leafs match - what gets "matched" vs not? Obviously the $$ amount gets matched - what about the NMC? Signing bonuses? Any other clauses - does it all have to get matched, or just the $$ amount? (Again - I realize Leafs/Marner can negotiate on clauses once $$ is matched - but i'm asking about what happens automatically if they just match).
8. Can Coaches/Gms/executives be "traded"? Serious question. Let's say team A has an assistant coach or GM that team B really wants to sign - team A is reluctant to let them go. Can a trade happen "we'll trade you a 2nd round pick, or player B to allow you to sign this guy"?
Ok all I got. I'm sure i'll come up with more later
Here are a few scenarios/questions. Don't get too caught up in the scenarios that are far fetched - they're just meant as examples.
1. Team A decides to offer sheet Mitch Marner (over 10.5M$ - so 4 1st round picks). But they have already traded their 2020 1st round pick. Are they disqualified from the process? Or does it automatically bump down a year (2021, 22, 23 & 24)?
2. Team A decides to offer sheet Marner again. But - they have 2 1st round picks next year (their own, and another teams). Can they chose which of the 2 to offer - or is it automatically their own pick offered?
3. Team A decides to offer sheet Marner again - but they traded away their own 1st round 2020 pick, but have acquired another team's pick since then. Can this be used instead?
***To be clear - i understand that with offer sheets teams are allowed to negotiate. So Leafs and Team A could negotiate and agree to any of the above scenarios - my questions are more along the lines of if Leafs don't want to negotiate and try to block the offer sheet - what do the rules allows for vs not***
4. How far past the salary cap can you get and how long can you stay there for? Example. Tampa decides to sign both Duchene and Panarin on July 1st to 11M$ each. This puts them way over the cap. Is that fine - so long as Tampa clears the cap space in time for the start of season? Or can they not even do that?
5. When PK Subban signed his contract a few years ago he had a NMC. But he was traded right before it kicked in - which nullified his NMC clause (which is why Nashville just traded him easily, no NMC). Is that the standard for all contracts with a NMC? If you get traded before it kicks in it nullifies it - or was it some specific clause negotiated in PK's contract?
6. Sticking to NMC's - Crosby has one. Let's pretend Pittsburgh trades him to Chicago tomorrow (and he lifts his NMC to go). Does his NMC automatically get reinstated once in Chicago? Or is it only good for the team he signed with (Pitt) - and once he's traded away he goes back to having 0 NMC's in his contract?
7. If an offer sheet is made to Marner with a bunch of clauses (NMC's - signing bonuses and whatever else you can throw in that's not standard) - and the Leafs match - what gets "matched" vs not? Obviously the $$ amount gets matched - what about the NMC? Signing bonuses? Any other clauses - does it all have to get matched, or just the $$ amount? (Again - I realize Leafs/Marner can negotiate on clauses once $$ is matched - but i'm asking about what happens automatically if they just match).
8. Can Coaches/Gms/executives be "traded"? Serious question. Let's say team A has an assistant coach or GM that team B really wants to sign - team A is reluctant to let them go. Can a trade happen "we'll trade you a 2nd round pick, or player B to allow you to sign this guy"?
Ok all I got. I'm sure i'll come up with more later