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  1. K9

    K9 Registered User

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    Kind of a fun idea I had for a thread

    I only really started following prospects in 2003, so that's where I'll start, but others can go eariler if they like:

    Ok so the game is you say who your team drafted, who you would have drafted then, and who you would draft now, with hindsight.

    Example:

    2003:
    Montreal drafts. A.Kostitsyn
    I would have drafted at the time: D.Brown
    I would draft now: J.Carter

    2004:
    Montreal Drafts: K.Chipchura
    I would have drafted at the time: A.Meszaros
    I would draft now: A.Meszaros

    2005:
    Montreal drafts: C.Price
    I would have drafted at the time: G.Brulé


    I guess 2005 is too early to call, but, anyways I'm curious to see who you felt was the best available prospect for your teams at the time
     
  2. McDonald19

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    Anaheim: (2001 was when I started following prospects/drafts)

    2001:
    Anaheim drafts Stan Chistov
    I would have drafted at the time: Chistov
    Who I'd draft now: Ruutu

    2002:
    Anaheim drafts Joffrey Lupul
    I would have drafted at the time: Lupul
    Who I'd draft now: Lupul

    2003:
    Anaheim drafts Ryan Getzlaf
    I would have drafted at the time: Getzlaf
    who I'd draft now: Getzlaf

    Anaheim drafts Corey Perry
    I would have drafted at the time: O'Sullivan
    who I'd draft now: Perry

    2004:
    Anaheim drafts Ladislav Smid
    I would have drafted at the time: Thelen or Schremp.
    Who I'd draft now: Smid or Meszaros

    2005:
    Anaheim drafts Bobby Ryan
    I would have drafted at the time: Jack Johnson
     
  3. Release The Lehner

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    OTTAWA SENATORS

    1999
    Ottawa Picks: Havlat
    At the time I wanted: Havlat
    Today I'd pick: Havlat (Best player in the whole draft)

    2000
    Ottawa Picks: Volchenkov
    At the time I wanted: J. Williams
    Today I'd pick: Volchenkov (no way I want my team playing AGAINST the A-Train)

    2001
    Ottawa Picks: Spezza
    At the time I wanted: Spezza
    Today I'd pick: Spezza

    Ottawa Picks: Gleason
    At the time I wanted: Woywitka
    Today I'd pick: Perezhogin

    2002
    Ottawa Picks: Klepis
    At the time I wanted: Ward
    Today I'd pick: Toivonen/Ward (I'd probably throw Kaigorodov in there too, but we got him anyways :yo: )

    2003
    Ottawa Picks: Eaves
    At the time I wanted: O'Sullivan
    Today I'd pick: Bergeron

    2004
    Ottawa Picks: Meszaros
    At the time I wanted: Meszaros/Schremp
    Today I'd pick: Meszaros (What a steal for OTT. Schremp is still my 2nd choice, but man what were the rest of the GM's thinking :biglaugh: )

    2005
    Ottawa Picks: Lee
    At the time I wanted: Lee/Latendresse/Bourdon
    Today I'd pick: After training camp - Latendresse. But hey, it's only been a month so I'm still high on the other 2 aswell
     
  4. Herby

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    2001 Draft (2 1st rnd picks)

    Los Angeles Drafts: Jens Karlsson
    I would have drafted at the time: Marcel Goc
    Who I'd draft now: Alexander Perezhogin

    Los Angeles Drafts Dave Steckel
    I would have drafted at the time: Derek Roy
    Who I'd draft now: Mike Cammalleri

    2002 Draft

    Los Angeles Drafts Denis Grebeshkov
    I would have drafted at the time: Denis Grebeshkov
    Who I'd draft now: Hannu Toivonen


    2003 Draft (3 1st rnd picks)

    Los Angeles Drafts Dustin Brown
    I would have drafted at the time: Dustin Brown
    Who I'd draft now: Dustin Brown

    Los Angeles Drafts Bryan Boyle
    I would have drafted at the time: Dan Fritsche
    Who I'd draft now: Patrice Bergeron

    Los Angeles Drafts Jeff Tambellini
    I would have drafted at the time: Dan Fritsche
    Who I'd draft now: Corey Perry

    2004 Draft

    Los Angeles Drafts Lauri Tukonen
    I would have drafted at the time: AJ Thelen
    Who I'd draft now: Lauri Tukonen
     
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    2001 Draft
    Detroit Redwings Draft Igor Grigorenko
    I would have drafted at the time: No idea
    Who I'd Draft now: Same pick, Igor Grigorenko

    2002 Draft
    Detroit Redwings Draft Jiri Hudler
    I would have drafted at the time: Jiri Hudler
    Who I'd Draft now: Jiri Hudler (i wanted him the entire time! TSN i thought had him at 10?)

    2003 Draft
    Detroit Redwings Drafted Jimmy Howard
    I would have drafted at the time: Igor Mirnov
    Who I'd Draft now: Jimmy Howard

    2004 Draft
    Detroit Redwings Drafted Johan Franzen
    I would have drafted at the time: Evan McGrath (I personally got him in a keeper league, i was high on him the entire time, i mean a year before it was a joke if you had him outside 15)
    Who I'd Draft now: Johan Franzen (why not, has had a stellar preseaon)

    2005 Draft
    Detroit Redwings Drafted Jakub Kindl
    I would have drafted at the time: Niklas Bergfors
    Who I'd Draft now: Kindl / Bergfors / Latendresse
     
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    2003 draft
    Vancouver drafted: Ryan Kesler
    I would have drafted at the time: Anthony Stewart
    I would draft now: Mike Richards

    2004 draft
    Vancouver drafted: Cory Schneider
    I would have drafted at the time: Mike Green
    I would draft now: Mike Green

    2005 draft
    Vancouver drafted: Luc Bourdon
    I would have drafted at the time: Anze Kopitar
    I would draft now: Luc Bourdon
     
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    2002 draft
    Edmonton drafted: Jesse Niinimaki
    I would have drafted at the time: Boyd Gordon
    I would draft now: Hannu Toivonen

    2003 Draft
    Edmonton drafted: Marc-Antoine Pouliot
    I would have drafted at the time: Jeff Tambellini
    I would draft now: Patrice Bergeron

    2004 Draft (2 1st round picks)
    Edmonton drafted: Devan Dubnyk
    I would have drafted at the time: Robbie Schremp (I was very vocal about this in the chat room too)
    I would draft now: Robbie Schremp

    Edmonton drafted: Robbie Schremp
    I would have drafted at the time: Adam Pineault (if Schremp was picked higher)
    I would draft now: Mike Green (again if Schremp was picked higher)

    2005 Draft
    Edmonton drafted: Andrew Cogliano
    I would have drafted at the time: Guillaume Latendresse
    I would draft now: Guillaume Latendresse
     
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    2001 Draft
    San Jose selects Marcel Goc
    I would have drafted at the time: Marcel Goc
    Who I'd Draft now: Mike Cammalleri

    2002 Draft
    San Jose selects Mike Morris
    I would have drafted at the time: no idea
    Who I'd Draft now: Mike Morris

    2003 Draft
    San Jose selects Milan Michalek
    I would have drafted at the time: Zach Parise
    Who I'd Draft now: Milan Michalek

    2003 Draft
    San Jose selects Steve Bernier
    I would have drafted at the time: Zach Parise
    Who I´d Draft now: Zach Parise / Corey Perry

    2004 Draft
    San Jose selects Lukas Kaspar
    I would have drafted at the time: Robbie Schremp
    Who I'd Draft now: Still Schremp

    2005 Draft
    San Jose selects Devon Setoguchi
    I would have drafted at the time: Guillaume Latendresse
    Who I'd Draft now: It´s very early to call, but Setoguchi really turned a lot of heads at the Sharks-Camp. Bit probably still Latendresse, especially after all the hype coming out of Montreal ;)
     
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    well i have very strong opinion so i was pissed when habs selected guy i didn't want

    2001 montreal drafted komisarek 7th overall
    i wanted ruttu
    now i'd pick ruttu

    2001 montreal drafted Perezhogin 25th overall
    I wanted perezhogin
    now i'd pick operezhogin

    2002 montreal drafted Higgins overall
    i wanted no idea
    now i'd pick higgins

    2003 habs drafted kastitsyn
    I wanted parise
    now i'd pick parise

    2004 habs drafted chipchura
    i wanted chipchura
    now i'd pick meszaros/chipchura/shremp any one would do it still not sure

    2005 habs drafted price
    I wanted kopitar
    id pick kopitar, still don't need goalie with dannis in net
     
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    2001
    Ottawa Picks: Spezza
    At the time I wanted: Spezza
    Today I'd pick: Spezza

    Ottawa Picks: Gleason
    At the time I wanted: Gleason
    Today I'd pick: Gleason

    2002
    Ottawa Picks: Klepis
    At the time I wanted: Paille
    Today I'd pick: Toivonen

    2003
    Ottawa Picks: Eaves
    At the time I wanted: O'Sullivan
    Today I'd pick: Weber

    2004
    Ottawa Picks: Meszaros
    At the time I wanted: Meszaros
    Today I'd pick: Meszaros

    2005
    Ottawa Picks: Lee
    At the time I wanted: Kopitar
     
  11. JF

    JF Résidences Soleil?

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    2001 Draft
    Montreal selects Mike Komisarek
    I would have drafted at the time: Dan Hamhuis
    Who I'd Draft now: Tuomo Ruutu

    2002 Draft
    Montreal selects Chris Higgins
    I would have drafted at the time: Chris Higgins
    Who I'd Draft now: Chris Higgins

    2003 Draft
    Montreal selects Andrei Kostitsyn
    I would have drafted at the time: Ryan Getzlaf
    Who I'd Draft now: Jeff Carter

    2004 Draft
    Montreal selects Kyle Chipchura
    I would have drafted at the time: Mike Green
    Who I'd Draft now: Andrej Meszaros

    2005 Draft
    Montreal selects Carey Price
    I would have drafted at the time: Gilbert Brule
     
  12. Jo

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    nice topics.

    2001 Draft
    Montreal selects Mike Komisarek
    I would have drafted at the time: Dan Hamhuis
    Who I'd Draft now: Tuomo Ruutu

    that one hurt a lot.
     
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    1998:

    Leafs Select: Nik Antropov
    Who I would have selected: Jeff Heerema
    Who I would have selected now: Alex Tanguay

    99:

    Leafs Select: Luca Cereda
    Me: Martin Havlat
    Now: Martin Havlat

    00':

    Toronto: Brad Boyes
    Me: Brad Boyes
    Now: Brad Boyes

    01':

    Toronto: Carlo Colaiacovo
    Me: Carlo Colaiacovo
    Now: Carlo Colaiacovo

    02':

    Toronto: Alexander Steen
    Me: Martin Vagner
    Now: Alexander Steen


    05':

    Toronto: Tuukka Rask
    Me: Tuukka Rask
    Now: ???????
     
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    2003

    Picked: Nobody
    Would have liked: Anyone
    Now: Anyone

    Still worked up about missing the first round of the deapest draft in years. Good luck in Calgary Mr. Langkow. Good luck in Philly Mr. Carter.
     
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    JF Résidences Soleil?

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    Yes, but it could have been much worse... At least he's playing regularly in the NHL.
     
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    Great thread.

    2001:
    Flyers select: Jeff Woywitka
    Who I wanted: like I remember 2001
    Who I'd pick now: Mike Cammalleri

    2002:
    Flyers select: Joni Pitkanen
    Who I wanted: Pitkanen
    Who I'd pick now: Probably Pitkanen, maybe Toivenen

    2003:
    Flyers select: Jeff Carter
    Who I wanted: Hugh Jessiman
    Who I'd pick now: Jeff Carter

    Flyers select: Mike Richards
    Who I wanted: Anthony Stewart
    Who I'd pick now: Mike Richards

    2005:
    Flyers select: Steve Downie (trades down)
    Who I wanted: Kendal McArdle (assuming Philly stays in their original slot)
    Who I'd pick now: perhaps Latendresse (if there's substance to all the raving about him I've heard)
     
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    2002:
    Carolina drafts: Cam Ward
    I would have drafted at the time: Cam Ward (I was real high on him)
    I would draft now: Cam Ward or Hannu Toivonen

    2003:
    Carolina drafts: Eric Staal
    I would have drafted at the time: Nikolai Zherdev
    I would draft now: Eric Staal

    2004:
    Carolina Drafts: Andrew Ladd
    I would have drafted at the time: Andrew Ladd
    I would draft now: Rostislav Olesz or Andrew Ladd

    2005:
    Carolina drafts: Jack Johnson
    I would have drafted at the time: Jack Johnson
    I would draft now: Jack Johnson

    For the most part, the team drafted who I wanted during these 4 years. Prior to this (before I followed the draft closely), they were god awful.
     
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    I've been tracking prospects since 1994. I'm going to start with that year, and end in 2001, because I don't think I can accurately judge 2002-05 yet. (Although there are some that I think I can form somewhat of a judgement on).

    Vancouver Canucks

    1994
    Who we got: Mattias Ohlund
    Who I wanted at the time: Alexander Kharlamov or Wayne Primeau
    Who I'd want now: Ohlund. (I know, Elias is the best all-round LW in the league, but when your team winds up with the top defenceman in franchise history with a pick outside of the top 10, you don't complain).

    1995
    Who we got: Chris McAllistar. (2nd round pick. First round dealt to Buffalo in the Mogilny debacle).
    Who I want: Peter Schaefer or Alyn McCauley
    Who I'd want now: Miikka Kiprusoff. Yeah, McCauley's one of the most underrated players in the league, but how can you argue against the Kipper?

    1996
    Who we got: Josh Holden
    Who I wanted at the time: Holden (Everyone thought it was a steal).
    Who I'd want now: Derek Morris, Zdeno Chara or Daniel Briere. (Morris and Chara have been likely the two best players from the weak 1996, but Morris was ranked 85th by CSB in 1996 and Chara wasn't on anybody's radar screen. From the players available at 12 that were projected for the first two rounds, I'd have wanted Briere).

    1997
    Who we got: Brad Ferrence
    Who I wanted at the time: Daniel Cleary. (Or anyone besides Ferrence, who I never liked).
    Who I'd pick now: Hossa. (Not even close, although I am a big Morrow fan, and I had Morrow ahead of Ferrence).

    1998:
    Who we got: Bryan Allen
    Who I wanted at the time: Malholtra
    Who I'd pick now: Anyone of the remaining Big 3 from the Q that year: Richards, Tanguay or Gagne. (I guess Richards, but only because he has a Conn Smythe).

    1999*:
    Who we got: the Sedins.
    Who I wanted: One of the twins
    Who I'd take now: Havlat
    (I asterisk this one because the Canucks traded up to ensure they'd get the twins. If not for that, they only pick at No. 3, and I was hoping at that time they'd get Henrik, since I thought Brendl and Daniel would go 1-2. If they could do just No. 3 over again, I'd say Havlat. But the Sedins will turn into two of the top 5-8 players from their weak draft year, so I'm not complaining).

    2000:
    Who we got: Nathan Smith
    Who I wanted: Jared Aulin
    Who I'd take now: Any one of the talented young defencemen (Kronwall, Martin, Schultz) drafted after Smith. Or Brian Sutherby.

    2001:
    Who we got: RJ Umberger
    Who I wanted: I really wanted the Canucks to trade up and land Kobasew, but failing that, Mike Cammelleri or Carlo Colaiacovo.
    WHo I'd take now: Colaiacovo, Cammelleri or Derek Roy.
     
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    Hab fans should be happy with Komisarek for years to come. He's rounding into a solid shut-down defenceman whose real value will be in the playoffs. He may not be as good as Hamhuis or Ruuttu, but if you get a really good player, you shouldn't be complaining.
     
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    2003:
    Montreal drafts. A.Kostitsyn
    I would have drafted at the time: R.Nilsson
    I would draft now: J.Carter

    2004:
    Montreal Drafts: K.Chipchura
    I would have drafted at the time: R. Schremp
    I would draft now: A.Meszaros

    2005:
    Montreal drafts: C.Price
    I would have drafted at the time: G.Brulé
     
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    1999
    We had the first pick overall but we traded down. I would have made the same trade as the Lightning since Brendl or Stefan didn't impress me.

    2000
    Lightning selected: Nikita Alexeev
    Who I wanted: Brent Krahn
    Who I would pick now: Alexander Frolov

    2001
    Lightning selected: Alexander Svitov
    Who I wanted: Tuomo Ruutu
    Who I would pick now: Tuomo Ruutu

    2002
    Lightning selected: Adam Henrich
    Who I wanted: I was happy with the trade down
    Who I would pick now: Henrich

    2003
    Lightning selected: Mike Egener
    Who I wanted: Patrick O'Sullivan
    Who I would pick now: Patrick O'Sullivan

    2004
    Lightning selected: Andy Rogers
    Who I wanted: Adam Pineault
    Who I would pick now: Patrice Bergeron
     
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    Flyers Select: Maxime Ouellet
    Then: (cant remember this year)
    Now: Martin Havlat

    00':

    Flyers Select: Justin WIlliams
    Then: Justin Williams
    Now: Niklas Kronwall

    01':

    Flyers Select: Jeff Woywitka
    Then: Timofei Shishkanov
    Now: Mike Cammalleri

    02':

    Flyers Select: Joni Pitkanen
    Then:Joni Pitkanen
    Now: Joni Pitkanen

    03'

    Flyers Select: Jeff Carter
    Then: Dustin Brown
    Now: Jeff Carter.

    Flyers Select: Mike Richards
    Then: Brian Boyle
    Now: Mike Richards...(very glad we got Richards)

    04'
    Flyers Select: Rob Bellamy
    Then: Micheal-R.J. Anderson
    Now:not really sure... Dustin Boyd maybe?

    05'

    Flyers Select: Steve Downie
    20th pick: Kendal McArdle
    30th pick:Then: Brendan Mikkelson
    Now: 20th: Mcardle
    Now: 30th:Ryan Stoa But I like the downie pick also
     
  24. bure94

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    I'd take Kesler over Richards, Bourdon over Kopitar, and definately Schneider over Green. We have no goaltending prospects and we've never taken a goalie in the first round. We need to develop a home-grown goalie and Schnieder or Ellis-Plante are our future.

    I really like Allen but I'd have taken Gagne from that draft year. Or, if I was time-machine GM -- trade VCR's #4 for Colorado's #19 and #20 and pick Gagne and Richards :p
     
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    2001:
    Montreal: M.Komisarek
    I wanted: T.Ruutu
    I'd take now: T.Ruutu

    2002:
    Montreal Draft: C.Higgins
    I wanted: Grebeshkov
    I'd take now: A.Steen

    2003:
    Montreal drafts. A.Kostitsyn
    I wanted: R.Getzlaf
    I''d take now: J.Carter

    2004:
    Montreal Drafts: K.Chipchura
    I wanted: W.Wolski

    2005:
    Montreal drafts: C.Price
    I wanted: G.Brulé
     
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