News Article: Logo Change Suggested by University Prof

[82Ninety42011]

Maybe I get my wish and the Orca gets removed eventually as this the new trend in sports. I'd be happy with these as the home and away set.

Canucks Pressured To Change Logo Over Cultural Appropriation Concerns

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[Egghead1999]

Heard it on 1040, at first, at first I thought Dhaliwal and Donny had too much irish coffee in the morning. It turned out it was real

 

[DistantThunderRep]

This is absolutely hilarious to me. The professor is a white dude who went to SFU and teaches in Manitoba. Does he not realize he is taking jobs from educated indigenous historians by culturally appropriating their history for his own financial gain? How is he not doing the exact thing he is bitching about? This kind of snowflake, white knight, virtue signaling bullshit is going crazy.

This is the guy:

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

f*** off.

Any team name or logo can be offensive.

At this rate... the future of jerseys are just going to be colors with team names.

VANCOUVER HC (HOCKEY CLUB)

 

[MS]

I hate that logo and am generally a Lefty McLefterson on social issues, but this feels like one of those 'PC gone too far' moments, like when it was actually getting suggested that we should change British Columbia's name because it was racist.

Going over-the-top on things like this undermines the whole movement toward social change. Pick your battles, and pick battles that the majority can get behind. When you start pushing for things that the great horde of middling people find ridiculous, you're pushing them back into the past instead of drawing them forward into the future.

 

[iceburg]

And the pendulum swings further...

 

[EpochLink]

Bring back the flying skate

 

[Tables of Stats]

I like the orca logo but I'd have zero issues with that change being made on those grounds. The other option might be to invite somebody appropriate to redesign the logo if the groups troubled by it are cool with that plan.

If we don't change it, and I suspect we won't, it's no skin off my back even if it does seem to be against the tide of progress.

 

[Fatass]

Bring back the flying skate

Personally the Orca is my least favourite of our logos, so changing back to the skate (or my favourite - stick in rink) would be great!
Just do it!!!

 

[Pip]

I like the orca logo but I'd have zero issues with that change being made on those grounds. The other option might be to invite somebody appropriate to redesign the logo if the groups troubled by it are cool with that plan.

If we don't change it, and I suspect we won't, it's no skin off my back even if it does seem to be against the tide of progress.

something like this would be a cool idea by Andy Everson that I saw floating around on Twitter

 

[eli4spetterss0n]

I think it'd be a good idea to get a Coast Salish artist to help re-design the Orca. The Andy Everson one is great.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don’t think this university professor being upset on behalf of First Nations’ people is enough to warrant a change.

But if First Nations groups feel this is appropriation a la Holtby’s mask, I think the decent thing to do would be heed those voices and make a change.

If the Canucks make a change, it would be great to return to either the Skate (my preference) or the rink and stick.

But even a revamped Orca designed by local First Nations could be interesting too.

 

[Tables of Stats]

something like this would be a cool idea by Andy Everson that I saw floating around on Twitter

They both look a little too busy for my tastes. With a little cleaning up they could work.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

if our team can be on the forefront of this and basically lap all the teams with explicitly racist caricatures that only now are decommissioning them, then great.

no one was ever hurt by too much cultural sensitivity and thoughtfulness



... well okay, certain people's feelings...

 

[Jay Cee]

 

[RussianRacket]

I think it'd be a good idea to get a Coast Salish artist to help re-design the Orca. The Andy Everson one is great.

Agreed.

i love the orca logo. It kicks ass. But I don't have a particularly strong opinion on this one. As a white settler I can acknowledge it IS cultural appropriation but from all appearances we have good relations with the Coast Salish, and I'm firmly in the camp of "whatever, as long as we don't use Johnny Canuck or that awful stick in rink".

 

[Hit the post]

That would be a great logo.

 

[Albatros]

Going over-the-top on things like this undermines the whole movement toward social change. Pick your battles, and pick battles that the majority can get behind. When you start pushing for things that the great horde of middling people find ridiculous, you're pushing them back into the past instead of drawing them forward into the future.

Following this particular path we would still be debating whether the noble institution of slavery should be abolished and women's suffrage would be deemed a ridiculous idea.

 

[RussianRacket]

Following this particular path we would still be debating whether the noble institution of slavery should be abolished and women's suffrage would be deemed a ridiculous idea.

Pick your battles RADICALS. Maybe start with enslaving SOME not all.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I don’t think this university professor being upset on behalf of First Nations’ people is enough to warrant a change.

But if First Nations groups feel this is appropriation a la Holtby’s mask, I think the decent thing to do would be heed those voices and make a change.

If the Canucks make a change, it would be great to return to either the Skate (my preference) or the rink and stick.

But even a revamped Orca designed by local First Nations could be interesting too.

i'm with the last idea as the most unifying solution. i think why not go the florida state route and give the First Nations you are supposedly honouring some equity?

whose crazy ass fragile grandpa could be outraged by that?

 

[canuckster19]

I honestly don't care if they go back to whatever *insert logo here* but I'm kind of fed up with this give an inch take a mile BS, cancel culture is cancer culture.

 

[MS]

Following this particular path we would still be debating whether the noble institution of slavery should be abolished and women's suffrage would be deemed a ridiculous idea.

Again : re-naming the Cleveland Indians or Washington Redskins is reasonable. People can get behind that. Change can happen.

However, re-naming British Columbia is idiotic. Maybe 2% of people are ever going to get behind that. And when you get up on your high horse about stupid stuff and link it together with the reasonable stuff, you're pushing those other 98% of people away from the whole process, including the things that should happen like re-naming the Redskins. It makes it look like the racist redneck blockheads are actually the reasonable, correct ones. And that's not good.

You can agree that there's such a thing as going too far, right? Like, should we ban restaurants from serving Wonton soup if the owners aren't Chinese? Should St. Patrick's Day be cancelled because it's Irish cultural appropriation?

Also, equating the Canucks logo with slavery is ... a bit ridiculous.

 

[Vector]

Once again, I am here to say, I f*cking hate the skate so much.

 

[canuckfan75]

This is getting too stupid now

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

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