Confirmed with Link: Locker Room Exit Interviews Monday May 6 (Players and Keefe) + Pelley/Shanny/Tre on Friday VIDEO LINK PG 57

[Leaf Fans]

2022-23	Ottawa Senators	NHL		82	35	48	83	-10	126	|
2023-24	Ottawa Senators	NHL		81	37	37	74

You think it was meant as 35 goals - 75 points? If so, touche. Still, I would give up Marner for him.

 

[bax]

People are just making up shit at this point.

Par for the course here

 

[notbias]

Playoffs:
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Why leave off points? It changes the narrative slightly...

Matthews has been our best playoff performer.

Rielly is 2nd most likely (can debate with Nylander), Marner has been hit and miss, and Tavares has been the worst.

 

[River Meadow]

Treliving sounds smarter and more articulate than both Shanny and Pelley combined.

 

[Antropovsky]

Klingberg Reaves deals too...woof.

Plus look what he did with Calgary. Not a fan.


Yes injured.

I didn't like the Reaves deal.. but I think this roster needed nit only Reaves toughness but also to see his confidence. I expected much less than what we got.

 

[notbias]

Shanny: "You've got to get to the dirty areas in the playoffs to score"

OK, Marner is a goner 100%

Getting to the dirty areas didn't work...

The difference in this series was mostly special teams honestly.

I feel like this was a bigger issue.

Toronto PP

Boston PP

A lot bigger difference here, we didn't get to the middle as much as them.

 

[River Meadow]

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Getting to the dirty areas didn't work...

The difference in this series was mostly special teams honestly.

I feel like this was a bigger issue.

Toronto PP
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Boston PP
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A lot bigger difference here, we didn't get to the middle as much as them.

Forget analytics for a second.

Remember when Marner got the loose puck as Bruins goalie was out of the net, and instead of trying to score right then and there (getting dirty), he decides to glide around the perimeter to shoot from afar?


Bruh

 

[Trapper]

Me too, if Tre did that deal without pressure from the President it’s not a good look, in fact it’s downright stupid……..

It was a bad deal but I will cut Tre some slack for a few reasons:

1. Huberdeau is overpaid but I don’t think anyone expected a drop from 100 points to 50. Even down to 70-75 average would be a bad contract but not horrible like it is now.

2. Calgary was desperate. They lost Gaudreau, Tkachuk wanted out and they couldn’t afford to lose exactly what they traded for on top of that. Huberdeau could have walked as well.

Still a bad deal to be sure but a different set of circumstances.

Never give out contracts though that you couldn’t move the player tomorrow if you wanted is always a good way to operate. A big overpay or NMC are bad things. A little overpay and a 10 team NTC are much better.

 

[Antropovsky]

Why leave off points? It changes the narrative slightly...

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Matthews has been our best playoff performer.

Rielly is 2nd most likely (can debate with Nylander), Marner has been hit and miss, and Tavares has been the worst.

No it doesnt... have we not learned anything? in playoffs its very hard to score. Much harder than in the season. Less time and space to shoot, one needs to go to dirty areas. Marner had JUST 1 goal and 2 assists. One of those assists was a faceoff win by Domi that Marner tapped back to McCabe who shot it at net. Thats a basic play that absolutely anyone can make.

Watch all Marners points in the playoffs and the driver of each play is 90% not him. His teammates are carrying all the weight while he literally waits in open areas. It's no wonder this teams struggles to produce... they have a player playing 20-24 mins a night not even engaging in any battles. His line is basically playing short handed at all times.

The sportsnet writer alluded to it after the 2023 playoffs... Marner was shooting 10 feet further from the net and had then worst slot shots on the entire roster...and 10% worse compared to the 2nd worst forward.

Think if your Matthews and you need to adapt from the season to playoffs with guy who isnt in front of the net screening goalies, he isn't in the slot for a rebound or pass... he's literally useless to you unless...unless he's standing on the perimeter trying to sauce passes lol. Those passes are generally from a standing still position because he skates in quicksand and shit$ himself if someone gets close enough to finish a hit.

 

[Bluebear]

BT, seems like a good leader, that will run the office well. Shannahan just seems kind of dull minded, hopefully he stays out of BT's way. Pelley seems like a giant wiener that is super annoying, kind of exactly what I picture a from a former Rogers exec, no surprise there.

 

[ULF_55]

Why leave off points? It changes the narrative slightly...

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Matthews has been our best playoff performer.

Rielly is 2nd most likely (can debate with Nylander), Marner has been hit and miss, and Tavares has been the worst.

In the PC they were talking about scoring ... and going to the places you need to in the Post Season.

If someone won't go to those places and score assists don't exist.

 

[killer1980]

Pelley seems like someone who lucked out in his career with good opportunist breaks rather than really being the 'best man for the job', I could be COMPLETELY wrong about that, I am just saying that based on looking at his job history and wasn't super impressed with the conference.

He inspired as much confidence as Shanahan. Only Tre came through looking like a guy that might actually help the fans. Although, I'll bet the MLSE Board all walked away fist bumping.

 

[Superstar]

We should have just built a conventionally diverse supporting cast on good conventional principles to support the unique core.

Get a goalie to replace Freddy Andersen when his time was up, put a premium on adding length defenders who can play a versatile game and build a tight knit group of junkyard dogs to protect our softer skill core.

Dallas Stars supporting cast, New York Rangers supporting cast. Carolina Hurricanes supporting cast or even the Vancouver Canucks supporting cast, plus Toronto Maple Leafs star power. That would have been a fine recipe. Still can be.

Yeah, there's still hope for the Leafs with Matty and Willy in their primes, but the team has to move away from Marner and Tavares, perhaps Rielly too, to free up the cap space to build it up properly.

 

[Buds17]

True, but there are many fans that seem to be of the opinion that MLSE are only interested in money rather than winning. Paying Keefe not to work for them is an example that money may not be more important than winning.

This opinion likely stems from MLSE still making money in the absence of winning anything big. I just can't really get behind that train of thought because winning it all would make them even more money.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Why leave off points? It changes the narrative slightly...

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Matthews has been our best playoff performer.

Rielly is 2nd most likely (can debate with Nylander), Marner has been hit and miss, and Tavares has been the worst.

There has to be a reason why someone would leave out points.

 

[Superstar]

Forget analytics for a second.

Remember when Marner got the loose puck as Bruins goalie was out of the net, and instead of trying to score right then and there (getting dirty), he decides to glide around the perimeter to shoot from afar?


Bruh

That was brutal...Marner could have tucked it backhand a la his idol Doug Gilmour, but he didn't want to take a hit, even in a game 7 sure goal...what a playoff performer!

 

[River Meadow]

That was brutal...Marner could have tucked it backhand a la his idol Doug Gilmour, but he didn't want to take a hit, even in a game 7 sure goal...what a playoff performer!

tbf,

That should hurt his trade value as well (ignoring the NMC for now).

What GM in their right minds will want a soft snowflake like this?

 

[notbias]

In the PC they were talking about scoring ... and going to the places you need to in the Post Season.

If someone won't go to those places and score assists don't exist.

Makes more sense... but also, I bet Matthews has the most shots from the "dirty areas"

 

[57 Years No Cup]

It actually wasn't to dig at Dubas. It was to say here's a guy who was exactly what was needed that was actually available, and allegedly willing to come to Toronto. If there's another Petro type that hits the market the Leafs need to be all over that. I've been saying for years as much as I like Rielly, he's not the guy you want as your #1.

I mean was I that far off in saying that? I don't think Matthews or Nylander are "it" either and would be happier if they got traded too but I've accepted that ain't happening. There isn't much on this team I see value in building with.

In a weird way I appreciate you saying that. Though I wouldn't call it emotional.. this team losing hasn't affected me the last few years because I've accepted it. As long as this group is in place its expected until proven otherwise. Re-signing Marner would be hilariously stupid, but if you're happy watching the same results 8 times in a row who am I to argue. I just don't see him suddenly figuring it out, he's shown 0 signs of it thus far.

But... one more time for the people in the back, f*** Dubas

It amazes me how many people that are allegedly TML fans irrationally still defend Dubas even though he's in Pitts now. Then they have the NERVE to call other people "emotional".

Projection, it's what's for dinner...

 

[rumman]

It was a bad deal but I will cut Tre some slack for a few reasons:

1. Huberdeau is overpaid but I don’t think anyone expected a drop from 100 points to 50. Even down to 70-75 average would be a bad contract but not horrible like it is now.

2. Calgary was desperate. They lost Gaudreau, Tkachuk wanted out and they couldn’t afford to lose exactly what they traded for on top of that. Huberdeau could have walked as well.

Still a bad deal to be sure but a different set of circumstances.

Never give out contracts though that you couldn’t move the player tomorrow if you wanted is always a good way to operate. A big overpay or NMC are bad things. A little overpay and a 10 team NTC are much better.

My issue is no other team would pay him that contract, so why not wait until the offseason, not only was it unnecessary, but it killed the season Styles was having, who knows how many points he could have had if they waited……..

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Just come out and admit you are Tre

How can PL be Tre when he's Batman. Come to think of it, has anyone seen Tre and Batman in the same place at the same time? Hmmm....

 

[Martin Skoula]

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Getting to the dirty areas didn't work...

The difference in this series was mostly special teams honestly.

I feel like this was a bigger issue.

Toronto PP
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Boston PP
View attachment 868471

A lot bigger difference here, we didn't get to the middle as much as them.

This is what I don’t get, am I the only one tired of watching Matthews, Tavares and co shovel pucks at pads crashing the crease only to get a whistle and look up at the rafters in frustration? The only series we won, we won by abusing Vasi on shots from distance that either got tipped or beat him clean.

 

[MSZ]

My guess is Leafs do not want to eat that final year and Pelley can pick his brain. Seems to me Pelley knows more about golf than hockey.

Look at Pelley's background he does seem to know more about golf than hockey.

 

[Leaf Fans]

It amazes me how many people that are allegedly TML fans irrationally still defend Dubas even though he's in Pitts now. Then they have the NERVE to call other people "emotional".

Projection, it's what's for dinner...

How many defend Dubas? What is their defence?

 

[BTO]

Depends if you're a "conspiracy theorist" or not...

Yeah no I’m good lol.