Value of: Linus Ullmark

[McDrailers]

I thought the Oilers desperately needed good cheap young talent to play depth roles? Also, you'd have to then probably trade Skinner somewhere for cap reasons, and you won't get a Broberg back in that trade.

Fair points. I’m probably living in a fantasy where we have two reliable goalies. I see skinner thriving in the exact situation Boston has now. You let Ullmark take the reins and skinner supports when needed. Unfortunately when you have guys like Nurse/Ceci/Campbell making the money they do you’re stuck hoping that good young talent can support.

 

[SPV]

Ullmark for Danault is a pretty good hockey trade. Fills needs for both teams. I think Boston would have to add something with more value though, maybe add Poitras or Lysell and add Englund from LA for Bruins defense depth.

Of course both guys have NTCs, so probably irrelevant.

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Throw me Bahl and Daws instead of Siegenthaler. Younger, less expensive, and fill two needs.

I'd do that deal.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

I mean rumor has it that Dubas was about to make the move using the Pens 2023 first before he decided to bring back Jarry instead. To the point where the Bruins were calling prospects that hadn't talked to because talks were far enough along.

As a Pens fan. I never heard that rumor. And it didn’t happen so…..

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Ullmark for Danault is a pretty good hockey trade. Fills needs for both teams. I think Boston would have to add something with more value though, maybe add Poitras or Lysell and add Englund from LA for Bruins defense depth.

Of course both guys have NTCs, so probably irrelevant.

Maybe I'm just taking crazy pills, but from my perspective, Poitras, Ullmark and Danault are all in the same neighbourhood in terms of value. You could even make the argument that Poitras is the most valuable of the three, though I'm not sure I want to plant my flag on that hill just yet.

Ullmark + Poitras for Danault + Englund is a foolish overpay from Boston, and the Kings take it and run. At least, that's how I see it.

 

[Guitpik]

What about Spence and a pick/prospect to STL instead?

Kings are most likely losing Roy on the right side of the defense this off season. I can’t see them dealing Spence.

 

[Guitpik]

Maybe I'm just taking crazy pills, but from my perspective, Poitras, Ullmark and Danault are all in the same neighbourhood in terms of value. You could even make the argument that Poitras is the most valuable of the three, though I'm not sure I want to plant my flag on that hill just yet.

Ullmark + Poitras for Danault + Englund is a foolish overpay from Boston, and the Kings take it and run. At least, that's how I see it.

Kings love Danault, they’re not trading him for Ullmark.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Kings are most likely losing Roy on the right side of the defense this off season. I can’t see them dealing Spence.

I assumed it would be something like :

Anderson - Doughty
Gavrikov - Clarke
Englund - [ Spence traded ---> UFA: Carrier or Lybushkin or Chatfield or Zaitsev ]

Ullmark
[ backup UFA: Copley or Rittich or new option ]

 

[Guitpik]

After RFAs and losing Roy and Arvidsson (Roy will be looking for a decent raise as will Arvidsson) the Kings will still be up against the cap. Blake is going have to be cost effective in the offseason. That’s what will make Spence more important to the Kings.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

After RFAs and losing Roy and Arvidsson (Roy will be looking for a decent raise as will Arvidsson) the Kings will still be up against the cap. Blake is going have to be cost effective in the offseason. That’s what will make Spence more important to the Kings.

If the Kings are going to be acquiring Ullmark (hypothetically), where is the cap space going to come from?

I know Plan A was Dubois, but I'm really not confident that Boston is interested in that. People are now telling me/us in this thread that the Kings need to keep both Gavrikov and Spence. Obviously Anderson and Doughty will need to be kept as well. So... a forward? Gotta be Danault, right? Or maybe Moore? I can't see Kopitar Kempe Byfield being options. Laferriere and Kaliyev are too young and cheap. I also don't think they should move on from Fiala just yet. At least not for a goalie on a 1 year contract.

So.... Dubois or Danault or Moore, or they very likely aren't acquiring Ullmark. Does that sound right?

 

[The don godfather]

Pld with retention makes sense.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Do we know for certain Ullmark will be the goalie Bruins trade?

Trading Swayman could get them boatload of picks.

That would be just dumb on the Bruins part. Swayman is their long term #1!

 

[Conbon]

Doubt he’d waive for Ottawa but something around Chychrun?

Ullmark's stats immediately plummet just like every other goalie that goes there. They need to figure out their team defense before bringing in more goalies imo

 

[kdog82]

Ullmark for 10th overall draft pick from New Jersey.

Bruins select Center Zeev Buium from the University of Denver

 

[Forge]

Ullmark for 10th overall draft pick from New Jersey.

Bruins select Center Zeev Buium from the University of Denver

He's not getting number 10. A trade comp more in line with Darcy Kuemper is more logical assuming that Boston doesn't just make a hockey trade.

Also, Buium is a defenseman, not a center.

 

[bbfan419]

I’d do Chychrun for Ullmark.
Seems a good fit for both sides.

That would work, both teams get an asset they need and I believe this was a deal that was talked about at the deadline. I think the deal Ullmark nixed was not LA, but San Jose with Hertl being involved to Boston, when the deal fell apart, they worked out a deal with Vegas.

 

[bbfan419]

Kings love Danault, they’re not trading him for Ullmark.

As a Bruins fan that makes me happy, we have Coyle, Zacha these types already, Bruins need a better center I think they could go the FA route or trade. Ullmark could be part of a deal for a top 6 center.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Oh I don’t know. It’s up to Ullmark’s list more than anything. I don’t think Boston would say no to Ullmark for Chychrun for instance, in division or no. They wouldn’t trade him to Toronto, tho.

Chychrun was pretty bad and very disinterested this year. Maybe a better team would get him to be better, but he's not a guy I'd target as a main piece.

 

[wintersej]

Chychrun was pretty bad and very disinterested this year. Maybe a better team would get him to be better, but he's not a guy I'd target as a main piece.

Oh that was 5 days ago. Now Lorhei is a stud first pair and the Bruins don't even need Chychrun!

I am very much making fun of myself for being a fan.

 

[YP44]

I assumed it would be something like :

Anderson - Doughty
Gavrikov - Clarke
Englund - [ Spence traded ---> UFA: Carrier or Lybushkin or Chatfield or Zaitsev ]

Ullmark
[ backup UFA: Copley or Rittich or new option ]

LA would be sooo stupid to move Spence....so they probably are going to.

He was one of few who looked really good in the playoffs, kept improving as the year went on. He is way more than an offensive d-man.

 

[wintersej]

Ullmark for Laferriere + 2025 2nd + 2026 3rd?

 

[kdog82]

He's not getting number 10. A trade comp more in line with Darcy Kuemper is more logical assuming that Boston doesn't just make a hockey trade.

Also, Buium is a defenseman, not a center.

My bad. Bruins select Defenseman Zeev Buium

 

[HugeInTheShire]

My bad. Bruins select Defenseman Zeev Buium

I think if Buium is still on the board at 10 the Devils might be better served taking him rather than deal their pick for Ullmark

 

[dgibb10]

I think if Buium is still on the board at 10 the Devils might be better served taking him rather than deal their pick for Ullmark

100%

2025 1st would be on the table for Ullmark, not 2024.

 

[Guitpik]

If the Kings are going to be acquiring Ullmark (hypothetically), where is the cap space going to come from?

I know Plan A was Dubois, but I'm really not confident that Boston is interested in that. People are now telling me/us in this thread that the Kings need to keep both Gavrikov and Spence. Obviously Anderson and Doughty will need to be kept as well. So... a forward? Gotta be Danault, right? Or maybe Moore? I can't see Kopitar Kempe Byfield being options. Laferriere and Kaliyev are too young and cheap. I also don't think they should move on from Fiala just yet. At least not for a goalie on a 1 year contract.

So.... Dubois or Danault or Moore, or they very likely aren't acquiring Ullmark. Does that sound right?

They most likely are not in the market for Ullmark. Especially if Blake can work out an extension with one of Roy or Arvidsson.