Bicycle Repairman
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Because it's the nature of the beast. Do try and follow.puck you said:What in the hell does that have anything to do with players unnecessarily taking other players jobs in europe?
Because it's the nature of the beast. Do try and follow.puck you said:What in the hell does that have anything to do with players unnecessarily taking other players jobs in europe?
vanlady said:If you ever had the unfortunate opportunity to meet Cory Hirche and his wife you would understand, I met them several times at season ticket holder events, glad he is gone. Oh and by the way Trevor Linden was one of the reasons Cory Hirsche left the Canucks. Maybe just a little bit of resentment on this one.
Bicycle Repairman said:Because it's the nature of the beast. Do try and follow.
puck you said:Follow what? Your constant replies of "Thats the nature of beast" and "You've got to expect competition for jobs in the hockey business." I get that, thats not the issue, the issue is that these NHL'ers don't intend on STAYING in europe, they are just there to stay in shape, and bide time.
Try to understand that concept, and see how that is incredibly wrong when considering that these european players need these leagues to make a living, but instead they have Joe Thornton boosting his cardio in his place padding his bank account. Can you not comprehend that simple concept?
And you're saying that Corey Hirsch, and players of his ilk should be reconsidering why they are playing hockey in europe? And you're entitled to make that statement how? Hell, aboloish pro sports altogether then, using your logic, should any professional athletes be willing to risk their jobs day in and day out? Not according to you.
If these NHL players were willing to commit their services to these european organizations for a long term, or even a full year, no matter the results of the lockout, then I wouldn't have a problem with it, because then they are there to fully contribute to their respective teams, and not only to stay fit. You and your NHLPA brethren seem to always dodge that argument, do try and follow.
Bicycle Repairman said:Professional Try out Agreements are commonplace in minor leagues. Players come and go all the time. Nothing is set in stone. Players get released on a more frequent basis than the major leagues. Nothing new here. Now the bumpers are a considerable higher echelon than the bumpees. Doesn't change things one iota.
puck you said:Congratulations, you've proven that debating with you is a lost cause. You will continuously dodge the main arguments of your opponents and only address the points in which you can attack. Seems like you and the PA have something in common, the inability to make a decent concession.
Reply when you can tell me how its justified for NHL'ers to take jobs from european players who intend on making a living in these leagues, and when the NHL'ers are there to only stay in shape and do not need the income.
puck you said:Congratulations, you've proven that debating with you is a lost cause. You will continuously dodge the main arguments of your opponents and only address the points in which you can attack. Seems like you and the PA have something in common, the inability to make a decent concession.
Reply when you can tell me how its justified for NHL'ers to take jobs from european players who intend on making a living in these leagues, and when the NHL'ers are there to only stay in shape and do not need the income.
Bicycle Repairman said:When one side issues a "Cease and Desist" order, that implies a white flag a' fluttering.
I win.
vanlady said:OK by your reasoning NHL rookies can no longer go between the AHL and NHL because they are taking someone elses job. Give your head a shake, 90% of the guys in europe came from those leagues. Example, Mattius Ohland will go and play for Lulea after the new year, why not he came directly from there into the Canucks line up without an AHL stop. These guy grew up in these leagues and are just going home to play in front of the home town crowd.
vanlady said:OK by your reasoning NHL rookies can no longer go between the AHL and NHL because they are taking someone elses job. Give your head a shake, 90% of the guys in europe came from those leagues. Example, Mattius Ohland will go and play for Lulea after the new year, why not he came directly from there into the Canucks line up without an AHL stop. These guy grew up in these leagues and are just going home to play in front of the home town crowd.
Jag68Vlady27 said:I don't know why we keep using "free market system" as a basis for argument on this issue. Isn't the notion that a free market system is NOT the best system for professional team sports in North America one of the main bones of contention regarding the entire NHL lockout???
Maybe it's just me.
Stich said:...except that even if there was 'complete free agency' teams would require contracts to play for their teams thus eliminating this alleged advantage that you speak of.
Malefic74 said:What kills me is that players who are screaming blue murder that they can't live if the league average salary fropped from $1.8 to $1.3 million are over there doing just fine on salaries of $450,000.
thinkwild said:And how is Shelaghs husband doing today?
bling said:Oddly enough Corey was named to be the starting goalie for Team Canada's entry in the Duetschland Cup Tournament taking place this week in Germany.
Here is the line-up for Team Canada...ever heard of any of these guys?
Corey Hirsch, Jean-Francois Labbe, Andy Delmore, Dan Laperrière, Micki Dupont, Jamie Heward, Shane Peacock, Jame Pollock, Derrick Walser, Domenic Pittis, Jeff Shantz, Eric Landry, Rob Zamuner, Dale McTavish, Ryan Gardner, Eric Lecompte, Stacy Roest, Yves Sarault, Jesse Belanger, Scott King, Randy Robitaille