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SteveCangialosi123

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You literally said yourself just a few posts that multiple guys had career years. Come on.

So what you’re essentially saying is the at you think this is a one man team with mediocre talent everywhere else. Which in hockey means you’re not a good team. Is that what you really think?
We still could’ve maybe made the playoffs last year with injured/hobbled Jack, but we’d have snuck in and would’ve been swept in the playoffs with this version of the player. That’s a top 10 player when healthy playing at like 50% right now from the looks of it. For any team that’s a massive blow.
 

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That's actually next level cowardice.

They knew if they went and started "reacting" (using the emoji reacts) during and after the game that Thursday, they'd get thread-banned so they wait until no one is paying any attention to an old closed GDT and pull that crap.
For how often they claim we’re obsessed with them, they sure do spend a lot of time in here lol. Especially that mentally ill bitcoin bro (Hi, I’m sure you’re here).

All the talk about Jack being injury prone too, they lost Heetle during a non-contact practice because his brain is mush.
 
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For how often they claim we’re obsessed with them, they sure do spend a lot of time in here lol. Especially that mentally ill bitcoin bro (Hi, I’m sure you’re here).

All the talk about Jack being injury prone too, they lost Heetle during a non-contact practice because his brain is mush.

f*** him...bitcoin guy is such a bitch
 

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There were large portions of the season that I really thought we played solid but just weren't getting results due to a lack of goaltending, individual mistakes, and the fact that Justin Dowling was our 2C at one point. There were a number of times in there that I thought would be a turning point where the team would go on a 10-2-2 run or something and get back in control of things.

It seems like recently they've just sort of realized it's not going to happen and given up. The thing that's most disappointing about that is that it happened after everyone finally came back. If they are up it seems like they can will themselves to playing a half decent game, but they're not fighting back from behind like they did last year and earlier in the season. Maybe that's quitting on the coach, but I've always thought that's just as big of an indictment of the players. It's really disappointing after how much heart and confidence last year's group played with.
 

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Shoulder injuries get progressively worse and more likely to re-injure until you get surgery.

Jack can’t take contact, isn’t shooting as hard, and can’t control the puck as well.

I wouldn’t say it’s a precursor to him not performing when intensity goes up. It’s just the reality of someone playing through an injury that is radically affecting his game.

Jack had no problem with the intensity and physicality of the playoffs last year.

Agreed. IMO it's 100% a shoulder injury, but I was told it's not a shoulder injury. OK. Whatever. I have no idea what I'm talking about even though I've had it 4 times and never had surgery.

Agreed, contact is perilous because of ... wait for it ... his shoulder. And it doesn't have to be contact to cause re-injury. Just the wrong movement could cause re-injury. Just like happened almost 2 months ago. No visible contact.

A recurring injury, immaturity, and losing are the trifecta for Jack right now.

Johansson. Are we getting goalied today? :sarcasm: No! LGD!

And give me my Bratt bobblehead!

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I was right, wasn't I? We did not get goalied. Instead we didn't show up.
 
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There were large portions of the season that I really thought we played solid but just weren't getting results due to a lack of goaltending, individual mistakes, and the fact that Justin Dowling was our 2C at one point. There were a number of times in there that I thought would be a turning point where the team would go on a 10-2-2 run or something and get back in control of things.

It seems like recently they've just sort of realized it's not going to happen and given up. The thing that's most disappointing about that is that it happened after everyone finally came back. If they are up it seems like they can will themselves to playing a half decent game, but they're not fighting back from behind like they did last year and earlier in the season. Maybe that's quitting on the coach, but I've always thought that's just as big of an indictment of the players. It's really disappointing after how much heart and confidence last year's group played with.

Why the hell would the players have any motivation to win in spite of their coach if the coach can sit on his ass all year comfortably without any accountability.
 
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Agreed. IMO it's 100% a shoulder injury, but I was told it's not a shoulder injury. OK. Whatever. I have no idea what I'm talking about even though I've had it 4 times and never had surgery.

Agreed, contact is perilous because of ... wait for it ... his shoulder. And it doesn't have to be contact to cause re-injury. Just the wrong movement could cause re-injury. Just like happened almost 2 months ago. No visible contact.

A recurring injury, immaturity, and losing are the trifecta for Jack right now.



I was right, wasn't I? We did not get goalied. Instead we didn't show up.
They should strongly consider shutting Jack down for the season.
 

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Injury or not our powerplay consists of Jake and Luke playing catch. Then either Jack missing a seem pass or Luke shooting into a defender. Thats it.
Instead of swapping Luke out for Nemec, maybe we put them out together on the PP?
 

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You literally said yourself just a few posts that multiple guys had career years. Come on.

So what you’re essentially saying is the at you think this is a one man team with mediocre talent everywhere else. Which in hockey means you’re not a good team. Is that what you really think?
What I mean is I think those special seasons have a significant ripple effect.

Like I don't think Verbeek scores 46 goals without Muller's 94 points and that trickles down from there too

I don't think Zajac scores 62 points or Elias has 78 points at 32 years old without Parise scoring scoring 94

I don't think Sykora has 80 or Mogilny 43 without Elias 96

And I don't think Nico has 80 points or Hamilton has 74 without Jack scoring 99...

You can tell me why I'm wrong, it's ok but I saw that ripple effect too many times before.
 
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Its beating a dead horse but it was brought up by Lindy today. The defense could make their lives easier but their biggest weakness is clearing pucks and making crisp passes up ice. Marino and are Luke better skaters than passers. Nemec is probably the best passer/2-way defender but he makes rookie mistakes. The defensive defenseman are terrible and it makes them look worse than they are. Siegs and Bahl have really struggled getting pucks up and out and it puts more pressure on their pairings. They don’t contribute enough on offense to make up for it.

While Graves and Sevs aren’t the greatest defenders they could score timely goals and were capable passers. I also don’t think we need to harp on their struggles this year as a indication of their worth when Timo plays like a 4th line wing most days, but gets a pass.
 
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Hughes is playing through what appears to be a shoulder injury where he will likely get surgery in the offseason.

He won’t/can’t take any contact with his upper body. The team obviously knows this but want him to play anyway. I’m guessing the shoulder is “healed” but they worry about a worse injury if he takes major contact.

So it’s a little hard to rag on a guy when he can’t play the way he normally would.

The organization should shut him down now and get the surgery done now as well. But no, let's wait until sometime in late April, early May. All about $$$.
 

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I block out last year or my brain my start hemorrhaging thinking about how good we were in puck possession, speed and quickness 😬
 

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Why the hell would the players have any motivation to win in spite of their coach if the coach can sit on his ass all year comfortably without any accountability.
Pride? Wanting to do it for each other? I don't know man, when I've worked for shitty bosses before and still did my job, and I wasn't in direct competition with someone and paid millions to do it.
 

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