Life on the line, who do you take

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  1. John Flyers Fan

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    You can choose any current or former players:

    Scenario #1

    Down a goal 50 seconds to go, face-off in the offensive zone, you've pulled your goalie.

    Choose 6 skaters, it can be any combination of forwards/defenseman you would like.


    Scenario # 2

    Leading by a goal, 50 seconds to go, face-off in your defensive zone:

    Choose your goalie and 5 skaters.
     
  2. Ogopogo*

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    Scenario #1

    Wayne Gretzky
    Mike Bossy
    Bobby Hull
    Rocket Richard
    Mario Lemieux
    Brett Hull


    Scenario #2

    Esa Tikkanen
    Scott Stevens
    Rod Langway
    Jason Smith
    Eddie Shore
    Dominik Hasek
     
  3. pitseleh

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    My choices are pretty boring, but:

    Scenario #1:

    Hull-Gretkzy-Bossy
    Orr-Lemieux
    EA: Beliveau


    Scenario #2:

    Gainey-Clarke-Lehtinen
    Orr-Shore
    Hasek
     
  4. John Flyers Fan

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    My thought process:

    Scenario #1

    The givens: Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy and Orr.

    Others to consider ... Richard, Hull, Hull, Coffey, Bourque, Howe, Potvin, Harvey, Clarke, Trottier, Yzerman, Messier, Esposito, Beliveau ....

    My original thoughts were Richard and Coffey.

    Problem with that is I need to win the face-off, and both Gretzky and Lemieux were poor face-off men. I could also use some more grit, to dig out any pucks that may end up on the corners

    I'm not positive about the face-off abilities of some of the older players, but I believe that Beliveau was outstanding on draws, if that's not correct, I'm sure I'll be told about it and alter my selection.

    Beliveau becomes choice number 5, giving me my face-off guy and more size down low.

    The final decisions comes down to another forward, or another defenseman. The choice narrows down to Richard, Esposito and Coffey. In the end I'll stick with the defenseman and choose Coffey:

    My six:

    Gretzky, Lemieux, Beliveau, Bossy, Coffey and Orr.

    Scenario #2

    My givens: Clarke, Gainey, and Orr.

    Gainey is the best defensive winger of all-time. Clarke perhaps the best defensive center, and a dominant face-off man. Orr dominant at both ends of the ice.

    Other options .... Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, Sawchuk ... Carbonneau, Jarvis, Lehtinen, Fedorov, Peca, Ramsey, Robinson, Potvin, Bourque, Harvey, Shore, Chelios

    My thoughts: I want another center, in case Clarke gets tossed, and my decision ultimately become Jarvis or Carbonneau, and I'll select Carbonneau.

    As for the defenseman ... I'll take Eddie Shore, and his physical nastiness to play along side Orr.

    Now to choose the goalie, while I think Roy had the greatest career any goalie has ever had, nobosy has ever played better than Hasek during the mid-to-late 90's.


    Gainey - Clarke - Carbonneau
    Orr - Shore
    Hasek
     
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  5. pitseleh

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    Now that you mention it, I like the idea of Carbonneau to have an extra centerman out there. :D
     
  6. pappyline

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    Interesting thread;

    Scenario 1
    First player that came to mind was the Rocket. Second thing was who would take the face off. Probably Lemieux. My line up is:

    Rocket /Gretzy /Lemieux
    Harvey /Orr
    Bobby Hull

    Scenario #2

    Pretty much the same guys. The best can play both ways;

    Howe/Lemieux/ hull
    Orr/Shore
    Sawchuk
     
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    Scenario 1
    Rocket, Mario, Gretzky,Lafleur, Hull, Orr

    Scenario 2
    Gainey, Clarke, Kennedy, Orr, Harvey, Roy

    Call it a hunch, but I couldn't get Kennedy out of my head when I was thinking about this. I would also really want two centers on the ice just in case.
     
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    Using only current players

    Scenario 1
    Brind'Amour, Crosby, Ovechkin, Jagr, Smyth, Niedermayer

    Scenario 2
    Brind'Amour, Draper, Lehtinen, Regehr, Chara, Brodeur
     
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    The best 6?

    I'm only going by who I've seen live in action. Obviously these aren't the best 6 choices, but just the 6 best I've been lucky enough to have seen.........

    Goalie pulled: Dionne, Simmer, Taylor, and Gretzky. On the point, Coffey and Orr.
     
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    4 D's? Isnt that a bit of an unorthodox solution? What if Esa gets kicked out of the faceoff circle? :dunno:
     
  11. Ogopogo*

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    In a desperate situation, I don't care about positions. I want the players that are the best to do the job. Give me 4 dmen and Tikkanen if I have to keep the puck out of the net.
     
  12. Nalyd Psycho

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    Scenario #1
    Frank Foyston -Ted Kennedy-Joe Sakic-Maurice Richard
    Bobby Orr-Cyclone Taylor

    Scenario #2
    Guy Carbonneau-Bobby Clarke
    Eddie Shore-Tim Horton-Jack Stewart
    Turk Broda
     
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    I'm feeling awfully young in this thread right now, but in scenario 1, assuming you want a front-of-the-net, garbage goal forward, who's your best choice? Ryan Smyth? Dino Ciccarelli? Glenn Anderson?
     
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    Phil Esposito is probably the best at that. It's not just age, I'm younger than alot of others, I just find reading up on PCHA players is a hobby...
     
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    Up by a goal I want 2 great faceoff men. I want guys who can understand and follow assignments, so from players I've seen.

    Clarke, Gainey, then Carbo,Trottier, someone like that. All would block shots, hustle to th epoint,whatever it took and wouldn't lose their man.

    On D, I'd sleep easy with Robinson and Svard there. They just knew how to win. Orr would be fine,Langway wouldn't let anyone near the net, Stevens too, but I'll let my CH sunglasses guide me. They executed under those conditions together so often,I'd rest easy.


    To get a goal, well you still want a great faceoff man, I'd trust Beliveau. I'd have Lemieux on the lw, Lafleur on the rightside. Bourque and Orr would be of at the blueline. The 6th man, well Hull, [any of 'em,] Howe, Esposito,Bossy, Gretzky any of them. My only reason for not taking #99 is Beliveau was better on thedraw,I believe. Still, Gretzky could replace Lafleur and come off the boards, I don't see how I could go wrong.
     
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    #1 Phil Esposito, Mario Lemieux, Mike Bossy, Jaromir Jagr, Paul Coffey & Börje Salming

    #2 Bob Gainey, Doug Jarvis, Tim Horton, Zdeno Chara, Serge Savard & Vladislav Tretiak
     
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    I'll just do #1 right now:
    Mario Lemieux-Don't really have to explain much. He'll probably take the draw for me, and try to dominate allong the boards with his strength. He can move to the side boards at times too.

    Wayne Gretzky-Again, no real explanation needed. Probably get him to set-up at the half boards, and rotate to behind the net.

    Maurice Richard-Create traffic infront of the net, plus probably the best clutch goal scorer ever.

    Bobby Orr-Another no brainer. I'll probably use Bobby to move all around the zone, and cause havoc. Maybe set up a play where he goes right across the crease...Wayne should be able to set him up.

    Now my point men are:
    Bobby Hull-Just have him tee it up from the point...or pass it off and move into the high slot, to look for the one timer coming from Gretzky or Orr.

    Al MacInnis-Now he stays at the point. Try to get movement and have him move into the centre of the ice. I just hope he doesn't hit poor Maurice in front of the net.
     
  18. Using only more recent players

    Scenario #1
    Gretzky/Brind'Amour/Lemieux/Hossa
    Bondra/Kovalchuk

    Scenario #2
    Peca/Lemieux
    Lidstrom/Pronger/Niedermayer
    Roy
     
  19. Snap Wilson

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    Moore-Beliveau-Richard-Richard-Harvey-Johnson (against the competition of their time).


    Gainey-Jarvis-Wilson-Robinson-Savard-Dryden. Good night.
     
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    I'm picking players of whom I have some recollection (some memories are more active than others):

    Scenario 1: Lemieux, Esposito, Gretzky, Kerr, Orr, Coffey.

    Scenario 2: Clarke, Tikkanen, Gainey, L. Robinson, S. Savard and Brodeur (edging out Parent).
     
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    Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, Lafleur, Orr, Bourque.

    Gainey, Trottier, Clarke, Stevens, Bourque, Dryden.
     
  22. Scenario 1
    Messier-Gretzky-Neely
    Esposito-Lindros-Orr

    Scenario 2
    Lindsay-Clarke-Howe
    Orr-Stevens
    Fuhr
     
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    For scenario 1 I'd absolutley want Adam Oates taking the draw. Lemieux at LW, Brett Hull at RW, Gretzky as the centre, Orr on the point and Esposito in front of the net.

    Scenario 2 I'd want Roy in goal. Carbonneau taking the face-off. Gainey on one wing, Langway and Bourque on defence, and possibly Bondra on the other wing, because he's decent in his own zone, but he has the speed to take the puck up ice, and he's a decent bet one-on-one.
    I think it'd be foolish to pack the ice with purely defensive players for scenario. The best way to avoid conceding a goal is to keep the puck in your possesion, in the other team's zone.
     
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    The 6 Skaters:

    Maurice "Rocket" Richard
    Mario Lemieux
    Jarmoir Jagr
    Bobby Orr
    Paul Coffey
    Mike Bossy

    The 5 Skaters to Protect + 1 Netminder

    Ron Brind'Amour
    Bobby Clarke
    Michael Peca
    Tim Horton
    Scott Stevens

    Vlad Tretiak
     
  25. Riffo*

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    Scenario #1

    Down a goal 50 seconds to go, face-off in the offensive zone, you've pulled your goalie.

    Choose 6 skaters, it can be any combination of forwards/defenseman you would like.


    Gretzky-Bossy-Esposito
    Orr-Lidstrom-Lafleur


    Scenario # 2

    Leading by a goal, 50 seconds to go, face-off in your defensive zone:

    Choose your goalie and 5 skaters.

    Roy
    Orr-Lidstrom
    Yzerman-Trottier-Sakic
     

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