Player Discussion Leon Draisaitl | 19-20 Art Ross, Ted Lindsay, & Hart Trophy Winner

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  1. Wen22 Registered User

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    You don’t need to play a sport to be a good writer.
     
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    Thanks for this breakdown. Looks like my eyeball count of the chart earlier was dead on. However on the chart above Drai placed 46 times. The actual number is 45 as two The Athletic scribes left him off their ballots.

    Drai is not on the list of either Dom Lywhatsgarble or Rob Rossi

    The latter leaves Drai off the list and doubles down with write ins for Josi and Malkin. Malkin only recieved 3 5th place votes (no others) amoung 170ballots. Only Rossi had him instead of Draisaitl on their ballots. I mean its astounding enough that anybody would leave Leon right off the ballot, but to put josi and malkin there is insane outlier voting. Josi was only voted for 4 times out of 170 ballots. The probability, all other things being equal, to have 2 of these represent your top 5 is incredible. A list derived that could only be arrived at through sheer bias, or flat out trolling. Rossi voting amazingly is even worse than Dom's. I didn't think that was possible..
     
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  4. Jimmi McJenkins Win it for Cave

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    Honestly it's an integrity problem the PWHA doesn't really care to ever even pretend to address. There's guys and options, but there's there's this Sh*t which is absurd garbage.
     
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    You have only counted 47 Athletic voters. I counted 48. I don't know if I added one non-Athletic writer by mistake, but below were the ones I used.

    1Murat AtesThe Athletic
    2Arpon BasuThe Athletic/Athletique
    3Max BultmanThe Athletic
    4Scott BurnsideThe Athletic
    5Sara CivianThe Athletic
    6Ryan ClarkThe Athletic
    7Scott CruickshankThe Athletic
    8Craig CustanceThe Athletic
    9Harman DayalThe Athletic
    10Lisa DillmanThe Athletic
    11Thomas DranceThe Athletic
    12Eric DuhatschekThe Athletic
    13Tarik El-BashirThe Athletic
    14Marc-Antoine GodinThe Athletic/Athletique
    15Jesse GrangerThe Athletic
    16Joshua KlokeThe Athletic
    17Kevin KurzThe Athletic
    18Mark LazerusThe Athletic
    19Pierre LeBrunThe Athletic
    20Dom LuszczyszynThe Athletic
    21Corey MasisakThe Athletic
    22Joe McDonaldThe Athletic
    23Sean McIndoeThe Athletic
    24James MirtleThe Athletic
    25Craig MorganThe Athletic
    26Daniel Nugent-BowmanThe Athletic
    27Charlie O'ConnorThe Athletic
    28Aaron PortzlineThe Athletic
    29Scott PowersThe Athletic
    30Joe RexrodeThe Athletic
    31George RichardsThe Athletic
    32Rob RossiThe Athletic
    33Michael RussoThe Athletic
    34Jeremy RutherfordThe Athletic
    35Hailey SalvianThe Athletic
    36Sean ShapiroThe Athletic
    37Fluto ShinzawaThe Athletic
    38Joe SmithThe Athletic
    39Arthur StapleThe Athletic
    40Eric StephensThe Athletic
    41Chris StevensonThe Athletic
    42Adam VinganThe Athletic
    43John VoglThe Athletic
    44Scott WheelerThe Athletic
    45Ken WiebeThe Athletic
    46Jonathan WillisThe Athletic
    47Joe YerdonThe Athletic
    48Josh YoheThe Athletic
     
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    28% of votes are from 1 paywall site? Interesting. Probably not a great sign for hockey media in general.
     
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    Lol, I saw that on their Twitter. Not my work though.
     
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    Drai seems more like a Jim the Anvil type of a bod and Connor more along the Brett type of a bod.
     
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    Leon probably has a better chance of growing Neidhart's goatee.
     
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    Natalya?:D
     
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    Ironically, Bedoes was born in Alberta and graduated from the U of A. I always thought he was a born and bred Easterner.
    Never agree dwith him, but I think he knew it was part of the schtick to make some outrageous noise.
     
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    Hopefully my last post about this dom fellow. I looked at his voting for all awards. There were 169 or 170 voters for each award.

    Norris
    - the only voter to leave John Carlson off his ballot; Carlson finished 2nd
    - the only person to vote for Jared Spurgeon (5th place)
    - 1 of 8 voters to give Charlie McAvoy a vote (4th place)

    Selke
    - 1 of 7 to leave Sean Couturier off his ballot; Couturier won
    - 1 of 6 to give Nick Foligno a vote (5th place)

    Hart
    - 1 of 2 to leave Leon Draisaitl off his ballot; Draisaitl won
    - 1 of 6 to give Auston Matthews a vote (5th place)

    All-Star Team
    - 1 of 11 to have Auston Matthews on his Centre ballot (2nd place)**
    - 1 of 4 to have Max Pacioretty on his Left Wing ballot (3rd place)
    - 1 of 10 to have Mark Stone on his Right Wing ballot (3rd place)
    - 1 of 5 voters to have Jared Spurgeon on his Defenseman ballot (5th place)

    **His co-worker at The Athletic, Sean McIndoe, was the only person to leave Draisaitl off his ballot entirely.
     
  14. Oilhawks Draisaitl to Kahun!

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    Ahhh, now I get why he calls it ‘Down goes Brown’
     
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    Sean McImDoofus more like it.
     
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    His credibility does go down with every article he puts out, so its not wrong.
     
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    Oh I didn't know that was the same guy.
     
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    I...don't think Dom is all wrong on John Carlson. I think that one you can debate.

    Couturier though is at least a top 5 Selke guy and there is no argument for Matthews over Drai.
     
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    I actually tried to read his "explanation" but for several reasons I stopped not even half way through and I only skimmed the rest of it.
    Some of that was on me, because he throws out a lot of advanced stats that I am just not familiar with and I have no idea if the actually have any relevance.

    But right from the start of his explanation I was put off by him praising himself for being bold to go against the grain and leave these guys (Drai, Couts and Carlson) of his ballot.
    That made me already skeptical of any reasoning he would try to provide later on.
    I have never taken any writing or journalism classes, but overall (or at least as far as I got in his article) it was not very well written. To be fair it also wasn't terrible (content not withstanding).

    Maybe I will give it another shot some time, but all this harping on advanced stats is a real turn off for me. I don't mind them as a throw-in to emphasize a point, but if they account for most of the article it gets tiresome for me.
     
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  22. Oilers Propagandist Relax junior, it’s just a post.

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    I made this disaster incase anyone here want’s to spam it to people who forgot about drai. Lol
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    Did you used to have an account under the name Oilers Propogandist?
     
  24. Oilers Propagandist Relax junior, it’s just a post.

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    Your posting styles seem identical.

    Either way, keep on giving Flames/Leafs fans hell. :)
     

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