News Article: Lehner goes into detail about his time in Buffalo

[OrlandK]

Theres literally zero evidence that shows ADR is better or his playing career.

I understand that the procedure has not been tried on a hockey player. It is not experimental however. And it replaces the disk with an artificial one that functions similarly - full movement, etc. A fusion by its very nature limits mobility and also typically doesn't result in a pain free solution thru one's entire lifespan, especially for a 25 year old. Both procedures can be helpful but the replacement surgery has a higher ceiling - both short term and long term. After listening to the surgeons in the know discuss the options I came away convinced that the replacement surgery is the best option. Some may reach the opposite conclusion, but it clearly is NOT correct to say there is zero evidence that ADR is better.

 

[Zman5778]

Interesting response.

 

[joshjull]

My money is on Risto comparing the coaching he gets in Philly to what he went through here. And fans that have complained about the horrible coaching hires of late will bash Risto and blame him for being hot trash and turn a blind eye to legit critiques.

What?

Risto was bad for most of his time as a Sabre and was constantly ripped on here. I know because I defended him from time to time when he wasn’t bad. Any criticism going forward would be a continuation of the same.

Most also ripped the coaching over the last several years. I can’t imagine many will start singing its praises

 

[joshjull]

Interesting response.

Damage control would be my guess.

 

[sabremike]

Remember: Our medical staff did a fine job with Tage:

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Interesting response.

Hmm what are the odds that this response gets fairly major media attention? smh

 

[joshjull]

Lehner’s comments are nothing to get too bent out of shape about.

-His comments about his treatment seem accurate since the guy responsible was fired along with the staff he brought in.

-His comment about playing here and how the arena was by the end is sadly accurate. Though a little better self awareness on his role in that would be nice.

The thing thats annoying about this is the rush by reporters, hockey twitter, etc to get his comments out there as if they mean something. They don’t.

They seem to be trying to frame it as if the Jack thing is a continuation of what went on back then. The guy advising the Sabres on the surgery Jack wants is IIRC one of the pioneers involved with creating it. The folks involved with Lehner’s issues are all gone. But I doubt that context is getting out there as much as the clickbait.

 

[Jim Bob]

What?

Risto was bad for most of his time as a Sabre and was constantly ripped on here. I know because I defended him from time to time when he wasn’t bad. Any criticism going forward would be a continuation of the same.

Most also ripped the coaching over the last several years. I can’t imagine many will start singing its praises

But plenty of fans will rip Risto if he says that anything in Philly is better than here. Coaching, cheese steaks, whatever.

 

[joshjull]

But plenty of fans will rip Risto if he says that anything in Philly is better than here. Coaching, cheese steaks, whatever.

Who cares? It can’t be any worse than the pummeling he got on here regularly

 

[JThorne]

Did they murder a peacock to make that cast?!

 

[MarkusKetterer]

But plenty of fans will rip Risto if he says that anything in Philly is better than here. Coaching, cheese steaks, whatever.

I mean, I’d rather have a Philly cheesesteak over a Buffalo cheesesteak. Because it’s Philly’s food.

Although now I wonder what one with wing sauce and blue cheese dressing is like.

 

[SundherDome]

I seem to remember the Sabres being very supportive of Lehner when he needed mental health counseling. Did I imagine that?

I recall it just being Botts. Overall the major sports are garbage at helping people/providing people with mental health issues. Social media basement dwellers exacerbate it.

 

[SundherDome]

Play better and you won’t get booed, I can motherf***ing promise you that. Tired of this clown.

You were f***ing atrocious here - the long list of reasons why is irrelevant. We overpaid for him, he underperformed (absolutely sucked), he left and it was everyone else’s fault that stoppable pucks from desirable areas routinely beat him. These are all facts.

This, this is not it lol

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Had Lehner not become an alcoholic to deal with his mental problems, spending a late 1st on him would have been an absolute bargain. He was still highly regarded then.

 

[Jim Bob]

Who cares? It can’t be any worse than the pummeling he got on here regularly

I was answering the question of who will be next.

 

[Ace]

Did he talk about practicing shootouts?

 

[oldgoalie]

Several of us have slagged their medical and training staff now for so long, it must have become part of the woodwork.

Oh yeah…

 

[jBuds]

This, this is not it lol

What’s incorrect? The assessment of his performance?

 

[threeVo]

I understand that the procedure has not been tried on a hockey player. It is not experimental however. And it replaces the disk with an artificial one that functions similarly - full movement, etc. A fusion by its very nature limits mobility and also typically doesn't result in a pain free solution thru one's entire lifespan, especially for a 25 year old. Both procedures can be helpful but the replacement surgery has a higher ceiling - both short term and long term. After listening to the surgeons in the know discuss the options I came away convinced that the replacement surgery is the best option. Some may reach the opposite conclusion, but it clearly is NOT correct to say there is zero evidence that ADR is better.

Theres like 100 surgeons who say fusion should be the only surgery on players who play contact sports. Im not talking about after hockey as I said.

 

[brian_griffin]

Just wondering who will be next to shit on Buffalo after departure?

Hey now, we're approaching the 120th anniversary of Leon Czolgosz ensuring William McKinley never got the chance.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Lehner seemed to correct the record over Twitter. I like that Lehner and Ristolainen, while acknowledging Buffalo’s problems, recognize they were part of the problem.

 

[haseoke39]

When he painted Trump on his mask I lost any desire to root for him anywhere ever again.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Interesting response.

I think that's backpedaling .

 

[OrlandK]

Theres like 100 surgeons who say fusion should be the only surgery on players who play contact sports. Im not talking about after hockey as I said.

No question - it was the default for many years. The improved procedure is relatively new and will take a while to gain full acceptance. That is how these things work. The older surgeons, who only know fusion, will stick with it to the end of their careers.

There are 100's now (also) though who believe ADR is better, skewing to a younger generation of surgeons.

 

[SundherDome]

What’s incorrect? The assessment of his performance?

That and the overall visceral tone regarding something that is living rent free in your mind.