News Article: Leafs offer on Hamonic was JVR + 2018 first

[Kamiccolo]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hocke...-traded-to-calgary-for-draft-picks-1.13761218

Avs GM Joe Sakic balked at a Duchene move, as he has for months. The Flames and Leafs balked at Snow’s asking price as Friday night’s first round unfolded, with Toronto reportedly offering a package that included forward James van Riemsdyk and a 2018 first.

So glad Calgary stepped up.

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[Morgs]

Ew. I didn't like JVR straight up..

 

[dubey]

If NYI wasn't a borderline playoff team I think they take that and run

JVR is easily a 1st at the deadline for them

 

[Daisy Jane]

the 2018?

yah. no. thank god for Burke/Treliving.

 

[PuckMagi]

Glad that trade didn't happen.

If the 1st was at least top 10 protected, then it's not horrible. If the 1st was unprotected, then you gotta wonder how smart this management group really is.

 

[ULF_55]

Ew. I didn't like JVR straight up..

van Riemsyk has to be extended and not given a huge NTC.
Otherwise he's a one dimension scoring winger, with size that he doesn't use outside of the bluepaint in the opposition end rental.

 

[Bloomberg]

I think JVR + our first is a better offer than Calgary's....

 

[ULF_55]

the 2018?

yah. no. thank god for Burke/Treliving.

Treliving spoke to Snow about Hamonic over a year ago.

Snow probably just used Lou to up the bounty from the Flames.

 

[Morgs]

van Riemsyk has to be extended and not given a huge NTC.
Otherwise he's a one dimension scoring winger, with size that he doesn't use outside of the bluepaint in the opposition end rental.

Depending on his contract demands, I'd prefer to trade him for future assets that we can then parlay into a top-4 defenseman.

Bobby Ryan <> 1st, Silfverberg, Noesen
Milan Lucic <> 1st, Jones, C. Miller

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Don't believe that, so JVRs value is less than 2 2nds?

 

[realgoodleafs]

I doubt it. That's more than what Hamonic got.

 

[FlareKnight]

I'm kind of surprised honestly they didn't take that. To the degree that I'm actually doubting that was really the offer.

The Islanders are trying to keep Tavares around right? If they are weakening the roster by moving out Hamonic wouldn't giving him another good winger in JVR be a nice touch?

Yeah, I'm struggling to believe that.

 

[Rude Dog]

A Leaf GM should be forbidden to trade a future 1st round pick ever again until they know for certain what the pick is. Perhaps it was lottery protected. Do not like that deal at all

Doesn't smell right. Isles take that deal especially given the fact that they are trying to show Tavares they can win now. May have been more about showing loyalty to Hamonic. He desperately wanted to get back to Western Canada for personal reasons. He agreed to stay put on the island a year ago... but there must be something going on in his personal life. Perhaps that played a bigger factor than maximizing the return for Snow. If so... Kudos to Snow for making it happen.

 

[CDP]

You all want a shutdown dman but don't want to give up anything to get one.

Not sure that I would've made this trade but I'd think about it for sure

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Doubt that was the offer.

It's better than what they accepted.

 

[thewave]

I think JVR + our first is a better offer than Calgary's....

It was. If true they could have traded it for another 1st +

 

[RoadWarrior]

The Isles didn't want salary back they wanted picks so I'm not buying this at all.

Yeah it's better than the 1st and 2 2nds.

 

[thewave]

Calling fake news on this.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Don't believe that, so JVRs value is less than 2 2nds?

it is, when you are trading in conference, apparently.

I think the thing we're all missing here - is that JVR was offered. which means, he could be offered again, which means - everyone saying "why not just re-sign him." you're seeing the answer. he's not part of plans if the deal is right.

I'd say let's not get too attached to JVR.

 

[frizzer1]

Calling fake news on this.

There is no way they would give up an unprotected first for him..

 

[Orfieus]

that isn't a real offer. What this fake offer means is to NYI JVR value is less than 2 2nd's. It is very hard for me to believe that.

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

Some guy writing a rumour into an article isn't "confirmed with link", even if the writer claimed to be confirming it, which he wasn't:

with Toronto reportedly offering a package that included forward James van Riemsdyk and a 2018 first. [emphasis mine]

 

[WilliamNylander]

That's so gross.

Almost so bad I don't believe it

 

[Keep Sorokin Me Babe]

Don't believe that, so JVRs value is less than 2 2nds?

Exactly, and Isles would prefer JVR over 2 future 2nds to please Tavares. I call BS. Staples is a 50/50 source on Isles anyway

 

[Jozay]

Guarantee there was protection on the 1st and thats probably why they chose cgy's offer instead.