Friedman: Leafs not willing to move Kapanen or Sandin

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[Vitto79]

Thanks for sharing!.............have to give to get so its only picks and other prospects or roster players?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Well then they aren't going to get what they want on the trade market unless another teams GM bends over for them.

 

[CheMxDawG]

Hopefully this means all the Toronto - Canes proposals can come to an end. We aren't looking for scraps and that's pretty much all Dubas wants to deal with. Good luck with that top 4 rd search.

 

[Bedards Dad]

Well then they aren't going to get what they want on the trade market unless another teams GM bends over for them.

You are acting like those are the Leafs only 2 assets, which is ridiculous.

 

[spockBokk]

So if they truly have their sights on Pesce, all this means is that they’re not getting him. There’s no trade to be had without Kapanen or Kadri as one the the main parts for Pesce.

 

[Hammettf2b]

So if they truly have their sights on Pesce, all this means is that they’re not getting him. There’s no trade to be had without Kapanen or Kadri as one the the main parts for Pesce.

You mean teams aren't interested in giving away assets for Connor Brown???

 

[justafan22]

Liljegren is the biggest asset along with their 1st that IMO they'll move.

 

[FlyingLeafus]

This makes sense, Kapanen will more than exceed his current value by the end of the season. Johnsson, Liljegren and picks/prospects are their most movable assets with decent value

 

[2022 Stanley Cup]

Liljegren is the biggest asset along with their 1st that IMO they'll move.

Apparently its down to their 1st, Lily, Johnsson, and Brown. After that the value of our pieces really really drops off.

 

[BB88]

Better lower the trade targets then and go after guy like Muzzin.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Sure doesn’t seem like they’re willing to spend the assets it’s going to take to acquire a top 4 d with term.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[justafan22]

Apparently its down to their 1st, Lily, Johnsson, and Brown. After that the value of our pieces really really drops off.

Johnsson?

 

[2022 Stanley Cup]

Johnsson?

Andreas Johnsson? Leafs probably don't want to trade him but haven't seen any reports saying that management has said that.

 

[Commander Clueless]

Can't really blame Dubas here, but I'm guessing that limits our options for a top 4 D.

 

[Baksfamous112]

This makes sense, Kapanen will more than exceed his current value by the end of the season. Johnsson, Liljegren and picks/prospects are their most movable assets with decent value

Yes but probably not enough to catch the big fish Dubas wants. That’s the issue here.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Can't really blame Dubas here, but I'm guessing that limits our options for a top 4 D.

There's endless examples of top-4 D being moved for anywhere between 2x 2nd to 1st+2x 2nd, Kapenen was never a serious discussion because he's overkill unless we're big game hunting.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Makes sense, if you are going to give up the big assets, the key assets you need a difference maker, if that's not out there then you keep Kapanen, Sandin, Lilgerjen etc there are other options.

I still think the Leafs and Canes eventually strike a deal for Faulk

 

[DanM]

Well then they aren't going to get what they want on the trade market unless another teams GM bends over for them.

What we want is not available for a reasonable price. I would rather wait for our prospects to develop from within, and not just give away young players for borderline top 4 Dmen.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Good luck with that top 4 rd search.

Thanks!

 

[Svechnicanes]

There's endless examples of top-4 D being moved for anywhere between 2x 2nd to 1st+2x 2nd, Kapenen was never a serious discussion because he's overkill unless we're big game hunting.

Endless you say... go on...let's see a list of past trades and potential options!

 

[MinJaBen]

Makes sense, if you are going to give up the big assets, the key assets you need a difference maker, if that's not out there then you keep Kapanen, Sandin, Lilgerjen etc there are other options.

I still think the Leafs and Canes eventually strike a deal for Faulk

Faulk could probably be had for some combination of futures. With what is available, Pesce and Hamilton should be off the table at this point given all of the Leafs proclamations about trade availability.

 

[rent free]

Oh well. Now it looks like dubas is gonna fleece a team for a top 4 d

 

[4thline]

Endless you say... go on...let's see a list of past trades and potential options!

McDonagh- 1st+Top Prospect+B Prospect
Shattenkirk 1st+B Prospect+ Contract
Hamonic 1st +2nd+2nd
Hamilton 1st + 2nd +2nd
Boychuk 2nd+2nd

 

[Svechnicanes]

McDonagh- 1st+Top Prospect+B Prospect
Shattenkirk 1st+B Prospect+ Contract
Hamonic 1st +2nd+2nd
Hamilton 1st + 2nd +2nd
Boychuk 2nd+2nd

I looked at the Hamilton trade. Are you telling me TOR 1st + B prospects is equivalent to #15 overall and 2 2nd round picks? If Toronto is as good as they claim, and make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs or more, the Calgary pick is almost twice as much (source nhl draft pick value article from 2011).

This is even before we consider that Hamilton was an RFA on a salary cap strapped Bruins club who NEEDED to move him.

Too often people look only at the players involved and not the circumstances around them. Come up with a similar candidate and start looking but please remove Pesce from offers with the main piece being Johnsson, 1st pick or below.