Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose. 6-4

[Punch Drunk Loov]

That Nylander clip...did he catch the puck with a high stick and didn't want to have a whistle?

 

[BraveCanadian]

To be honest. Dont be shocked if he has the most energy of all of them vs Boston. He gave up on 100 and went conservation. If I am wrong I am wrong

lol

Nylander is saving his energy for his summer vacation. He does not care in the slightest whether this hockey team wins or loses.

 

[Dreakmur]

That Nylander clip...did he catch the puck with a high stick and didn't want to have a whistle?

Yes it was a high stick

 

[ACC1224]

That Nylander clip...did he catch the puck with a high stick and didn't want to have a whistle?

Yep, which is dumb enough on it's own. He then gave up and glided over to the bench.

 

[nuck]

lol

Nylander is saving his energy for his summer vacation. He does not care in the slightest whether this hockey team wins or loses.

This is the $7M Willie. We don't get the $11M version until July1st.

 

[BraveCanadian]

This is the $7M Willie. We don't get the $11M version until July1st.

I think we've had enough years experience now to know we're only ever getting 50% of whatever Nylander is.. they should have moved him last year while they could because I think that contract is going to age horribly. Hopefully he proves me wrong but I doubt it.

 

[Jojalu]

Mathews isn’t even close to being the “best Leaf” ever, he hasn’t won shit and until he raises a cup or two he can’t be mentioned in that discussion………..


Ditto…….

That is your opinion, but really isn't really all that true.

There are plenty of players who are considered to be the best on said team who never won.

Winning is a team accomplishment and too many factors are out of players control.

If he plays out his career here, there will be almost no chance he isn't considered the best player to play for the Leafs.

Odds are very low unless something drastic happens that he becomes the winningest Leaf ever

 

[Burnie97]

It wasn't from lack of effort, he could have had 75 with a few breaks.

I think he's going to go off on one against the Bruins, he's playing so well right now.

That's true. Sure he was probably a bit pissed but I'll take a Matthews who has looked great and will already be salty going into this series.

He's the one guy we have that I think can win a series on his own if he goes on a heater.

 

[notDatsyuk]

How didn't we get the 1st OV pick that year?? We got Naz at 7 in 09, correct? That's shocking.

Probably just as well we didn't get the first overall pick that year.

 

[notDatsyuk]

The draft pick was traded for Kessel.

No - that was the 2010 pick.

And the 2011 pick.

And the 2010 second round pick.




I just made myself sad.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Folks Matthews is beast. The difference between 69 and 70 is meaniless. Who cares Papi is a baller and nobody can be disappointed.

Now Nylander on the on hand. This dude few games back took a little body check and was never the same. Nylander was and is a bad contract. Anyone ever comparing Nylander random puck luck playoffs to Matthew needs to give head a shake. The truth is Matthews is the leafs. The best there is the best there ever was and the best there ever will be. Leafs and papi team and the guy does it all. Any leaf fan every talking smack on papi is nuts. Papi should be captain.

5 hits, 14 hits taken, and 4 blocks in his last 10 games, which are all well above his season average.

Shots about average, and how many times did he set up other players and not have them score?

I agree that Matty is the leader and should have been the captain, but I'm not as worried about Willy as I am about some others.

 

[ACC1224]

5 hits, 14 hits taken, and 4 blocks in his last 10 games, which are all well above his season average.

Shots about average, and how many times did he set up other players and not have them score?

I agree that Matty is the leader and should have been the captain, but I'm not as worried about Willy as I am about some others.

You should be, he's been terrible.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I guess whoever posted that didn't see what happened. Near the end of a 52 second shift (not 'mid shift') he knocked down a high pass (?) which negated an icing, but would have resulted in a faceoff in our end if he touched it again. Instead he chased the D back and went for a line change.

I'm not sure it was his fault that the two Leafs defencemen gave up a breakaway.

 

[notDatsyuk]

I was under the impression that elite players can drive their own line, Nylander doesn’t get a hall pass for being useless imo, he’ll never live up to that boat anchor of a contract………


Sums up Nylander in a nutshell………

Sums up the bias some people have in a nutshell....

You should be, he's been terrible.

He's been unlucky - there's a difference.

 

[ACC1224]

Sums up the bias some people have in a nutshell....


He's been unlucky - there's a difference.

Disinterest isn't a lucky/unlucky thing. Matthews was unlucky, Nylander is disinterested.

Seems you're the only one here with a bias, the take on that video was something

Even the coach admitted he's checked out. Hopefully he checks back in for the playoffs.

 

[BraveCanadian]

I guess whoever posted that didn't see what happened. Near the end of a 52 second shift (not 'mid shift') he knocked down a high pass (?) which negated an icing, but would have resulted in a faceoff in our end if he touched it again. Instead he chased the D back and went for a line change.

I'm not sure it was his fault that the two Leafs defencemen gave up a breakaway.

He chased the D back?

That is very generous. Did he also rush to make a quick line change at the end there too?

That was a pathetic play and the body language spoke volumes.

He could have at least taken the long bomb lane away before family skating off to the bench.

 

[ACC1224]

He chased the D back?

That is very generous. Did he also rush to make a quick line change at the end there too?

That was a pathetic play and the body language spoke volumes.

He could have at least taken the long bomb lane away before family skating off to the bench.

Usually around here there are a couple with a different take on things but this one seemed unanimous. I guess like they say "there's always one".

 

[BraveCanadian]

Usually around here there are a couple with a different take on things but this one seemed unanimous. I guess like they say "there's always one".

Nylander pulling the chute was another great play to unite the fanbase. Saw him do it again a couple of games ago.

8 more years...

 

[DarkKnight]

I guess whoever posted that didn't see what happened. Near the end of a 52 second shift (not 'mid shift') he knocked down a high pass (?) which negated an icing, but would have resulted in a faceoff in our end if he touched it again. Instead he chased the D back and went for a line change.

I'm not sure it was his fault that the two Leafs defencemen gave up a breakaway.

Nah he quit everyone knew the situation.

 

[ACC1224]

Nylander pulling the chute was another great play to unite the fanbase. Saw him do it again a couple of games ago.

8 more years...

I've grown to accept it. He was excellent early in the year and if he keeps that up I'll take the flybys, etc.
Hopefully he shows up Game 1.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Disinterest isn't a lucky/unlucky thing. Matthews was unlucky, Nylander is disinterested.

Seems you're the only one here with a bias, the take on that video was something

Even the coach admitted he's checked out. Hopefully he checks back in for the playoffs.

Did you watch the video? Did you see what happened? My take on the video was accurate - certainly more so than the 'quit mid shift' nonsense.

 

[BraveCanadian]

I've grown to accept it. He was excellent early in the year and if he keeps that up I'll take the flybys, etc.
Hopefully he shows up Game 1.

120 point pace until signing

80 point pace after signing

 

[notDatsyuk]

Nah he quit everyone knew the situation.

Did you not watch it? He deliberately did not touch the puck again, then went for a line change.

Would you have preferred he not knock the puck down and have it result in an icing with tired forwards? Would you have preferred he retouch the puck and have it result in a faceoff in our end? Would you have preferred he not change when the puck is deep in their end, but stay on the ice for more than the 52 seconds he was?

 

[DarkKnight]

Did you not watch it? He deliberately did not touch the puck again, then went for a line change.

Would you have preferred he not knock the puck down and have it result in an icing with tired forwards? Would you have preferred he retouch the puck and have it result in a faceoff in our end? Would you have preferred he not change when the puck is deep in their end, but stay on the ice for more than the 52 seconds he was?

Yes I watched it. It's okay, he coasted.

 

[ACC1224]

Did you watch the video? Did you see what happened? My take on the video was accurate - certainly more so than the 'quit mid shift' nonsense.

Sorry you weren't really even close.
First, it wasn't going to be an icing the defender was right there. Second, Nylander should have engaged the player to allow others to change. That's what caused the breakaway, his teammates expected him to engage not glide by.