Line Combos: Leafs Lines Next Season

SHANNYPLAN

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Hyman - - Matthews - - Marner
_____ - - Nylander - - Kappanen
Komarov - - - Kadri - - - Brown
Rychel - - Gauthier - - Martin

Rielly - - ______
Gardiner - Zaitsev
_____ - Carrick

Anderson
______

Fill the Blanks?
 

saltming

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Hyman - - Matthews - - Marner
_____ - - Nylander - - Kappanen
Komarov - - - Kadri - - - Brown
Rychel - - Gauthier - - Martin

Rielly - - ______
Gardiner - Zaitsev
_____ - Carrick

Anderson
______

Fill the Blanks?

Going with just what we have in the system
Hyman - - Matthews - - Marner
JVR - - Nylander - - Kappanen
Komarov - - - Kadri - - - Brown
Rychel - - Gauthier - - Martin

Rielly - - ??? (Something from bozak trade/ufa :dunno:)
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Carrick

Anderson
 

SHANNYPLAN

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Going with just what we have in the system
Hyman - - Matthews - - Marner
JVR - - Nylander - - Kappanen
Komarov - - - Kadri - - - Brown
Rychel - - Gauthier - - Martin

Rielly - - ??? (Something from bozak trade/ufa :dunno:)
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Dermott - Carrick

Anderson

Would Nielson not be ahead of Dermott in the depth chart at this point?

Havent watched either one of them too closely personally
 

Walshy7

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Would Nielson not be ahead of Dermott in the depth chart at this point?

Havent watched either one of them too closely personally

dermott is light years ahead of Nielsen. Unfortunately Nielsen has pretty bad skating and because of that (or on top of that) he is pretty bad defensively in terms of reads.


Hyman-Matthews-Brown/Marner
Kapanen-Nylander-Brown/Marner
Rychel-Kadri-Leo
Martin-Freddy/FA-Leivo
 

LeafsNation149

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JVR-Kadri-Marner
Leipsic-Matthews-Brown
Kapanen-Nylander-Komarov
Martin-Boyle/Gauthier-Hyman

Rielly-Zaitsev
Gardiner-Dermott
Hunwick-Carrick
 

Kiwi

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The Naki
Kapanen Mathews Brown
Leivo Bozak Marner
Komorov Kadri Nylander
Hyman Gauthier Soshnikov

Rielly ?
Gardiner Carrick
Dermott Zaitsev

Andersen
?

JVR is traded
Never going to happen in know
 

saltming

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Would Nielson not be ahead of Dermott in the depth chart at this point?

Havent watched either one of them too closely personally

Good golly no!
Nielsen is a project. One with great upside and and really make an impact with the club IF he can gather his toolbox.
 

SprDaVE

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I'll bite.

Hyman - - Matthews - - Marner
Leivo - - Nylander - - Brown
Komarov - - Kadri - - Kapanen
Martin - - Boyle - - Soshnikov
Rychel

Rielly - Shattenkirk
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Smith - Carrick
Marincin - Marchenko

Anderson
A. Nilsson
 

SHANNYPLAN

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Leafs trade JVR & 2nd for Boone Jenner

Sign Karl Alzner 5 years x 5 million

Sign Dimitry Kulikov 2 years x 3 million

Tyler Bozak for 2017 & 2018 2nd

Jenner - - Matthews - - Marner
Kapannen - Nylander - Komarov
Hyman - - - Kadri - - - Brown (shut down line)
Rychel - Gauthier/Boyle - Martin

Alzner - - - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Kulikov - Carrick
 

SHANNYPLAN

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I'll bite.

Hyman - - Matthews - - Marner
Leivo - - Nylander - - Brown
Komarov - - Kadri - - Kapanen
Martin - - Boyle - - Soshnikov
Rychel

Rielly - Shattenkirk
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Smith - Carrick
Marincin - Marchenko

Anderson
A. Nilsson

I like this, except switch Leivo and Kappanen
 

BigWilly

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Ontario
Hyman --- Matthews --- Marner
Komarov --- Kadri --- Leivo
Kapanen --- Nylander --- Brown
Martin --- Boyle --- Soshnikov/Leipsic
Rychel/Leipsic

Rielly ---- ???
Gardiner ---- Zaitsev
Hunwick ---- Carrick
Marincin/Marchenko

Anderson
IDK


- Move everyone up a spot if we don't acquire a top 4 RHD.
- I think at least two of JVR, Bozak and Sosh/Leipsic/Rychel will be traded in the next 8 months.
- Similar to SPR Daves
 

SHANNYPLAN

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I wonder how Gauthier would look on the wing with Matthews if Boyle Stays

Gauthier - Matthews - Marner
 

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Brown-Mathews-Soshnikov
Komorov-Kadri-Kapenen
Hyman-Bozak-Nylander
Martin-Boyle-Leipsic

(Trade)-Reilly (JVR+Leivo trade for D)
Zaitsev-Gardner
Carrick- Marchenko
 

SHANNYPLAN

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Brown-Mathews-Soshnikov
Komorov-Kadri-Kapenen
Hyman-Bozak-Nylander
Martin-Boyle-Leipsic

(Trade)-Reilly (JVR+Leivo trade for D)
Zaitsev-Gardner
Carrick- Marchenko

I really hope Marner's not being scrached or sent down..
 

Walshy7

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Leafs trade JVR & 2nd for Boone Jenner

Sign Karl Alzner 5 years x 5 million

Sign Dimitry Kulikov 2 years x 3 million

Tyler Bozak for 2017 & 2018 2nd

Jenner - - Matthews - - Marner
Kapannen - Nylander - Komarov
Hyman - - - Kadri - - - Brown (shut down line)
Rychel - Gauthier/Boyle - Martin

Alzner - - - Rielly
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Kulikov - Carrick


i think CBJ would be crazy to do that trade, while jenner doesn't score as much he brings so much more to a team is 4 years younger, cheaper and a RFA at the end of his next deal. If JVR isn't scoring he is beyond useless
 

saltming

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i think CBJ would be crazy to do that trade, while jenner doesn't score as much he brings so much more to a team is 4 years younger, cheaper and a RFA at the end of his next deal. If JVR isn't scoring he is beyond useless
Isn't Jenner injury riddled? I'm thinking 2 or 3 concussions?
 

Hotlanta

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JVR and Bozak aren't going anywhere unless someone overpays. I'm not sure Nylander is going to succeed at center next season so we will need Bozak at 3C in case Nylander falters. JVR still has a great scoring touch and despite his defensive issues is a good complimentary scorer and easily a 2nd line LW. Which won't land us a top pairing defender, even if we add. Players with JVRs numbers will easily cost $2 million more in free agency, and shouldn't be replaced internally either (I consider Kapanen a great asset that should be added to the team, not replacing a top 6 forward). If we suck next year, then we can look at moving JVR at the deadline. Okposo, Lucic, Eriksson and Backes got 6M, even Ladd got 5.5. I would take JVR over any of them, and he comes $2 million cheaper for the time being.

JVR - Bozak - Marner
Kapanen - Matthews - Nylander/Brown
Komarov/Leivo - Kadri - Brown/Nylander
Hyman - Gauthier/Boyle - Martin
Sosh
*assuming we lose Komarov/Leivo at expansion.

Rielly (23) - Zaitsev (25)
Gardiner (27) - Carrick (23)
Dermott (20) - Marchenko (25)

Its no better on paper than this year, but experience and development should help this team take another step forward, especially the defense. We need to remember that outside Hunlak, our oldest defender is Gardiner at 26.
 

Wafflewhipper

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dermott is light years ahead of Nielsen. Unfortunately Nielsen has pretty bad skating and because of that (or on top of that) he is pretty bad defensively in terms of reads.


Hyman-Matthews-Brown/Marner
Kapanen-Nylander-Brown/Marner
Rychel-Kadri-Leo
Martin-Freddy/FA-Leivo

Wow! Goin by what you hear right. Don't imagine you are getting Ahl games there! Maybe you are? Nielsen has been working on skating, defensive zone coverage away from the puck and getting strength and conditioning up for two years now.
 

Walshy7

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Wow! Goin by what you hear right. Don't imagine you are getting Ahl games there! Maybe you are? Nielsen has been working on skating, defensive zone coverage away from the puck and getting strength and conditioning up for two years now.

going by watching marlies games and listening to trusted posters here yeah. If he has been working on those things for 2 yrs now that doesn't bode well for us then. I live in Toronto
 

saltming

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Wow! Goin by what you hear right. Don't imagine you are getting Ahl games there! Maybe you are? Nielsen has been working on skating, defensive zone coverage away from the puck and getting strength and conditioning up for two years now.
I believe Walshy lives in Canada. He catches the odd game.
I've seen you say this a few times that people aren't watching the games. Do you?
Nielsen is absolutely working on all those things, but Dermott is better than him right now without a doubt.

Edit
I do catch the marlies games every now and then
 

Hotlanta

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Wow! Goin by what you hear right. Don't imagine you are getting Ahl games there! Maybe you are? Nielsen has been working on skating, defensive zone coverage away from the puck and getting strength and conditioning up for two years now.

He isn't wrong. Dermott has a more well rounded game than Nielsen. I like Nielsen, but he is Franson 2.0 (except LHD). Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Franson was very poorly developed and could have been a better player if he didn't try and hit everything and had a better transition game. Nielsen's speed/transition game would be below average at the NHL level, but thats not to say he doesn't have a whole bunch of potential.
 

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