Friedman: Leafs interested in Risto?

[mouser]

So many folks fall for the Toronto media clickbait articles.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

What would it take?

Does PHI need prospect forwards, draft picks, or anything else?

 

[viceroy]

Smart move by Treleving. Need a Klingberg replacement now that he’s out for the season.
Guy’s playing 3 D chess tic-tac-toe while the rest of the league plays checkers.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[tmurfin]

If Leafs fans haven’t caught on yet, Treliving checks in on most available players. It just didn’t get leaked near as much in Calgary.

 

[Hobnobs]

If im a sens or sabres fan i would be more worried about my team...

Salty fan, we non-leafers can do two things at the same time. Shocking, right?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Salty fan, we non-leafers can do two things at the same time. Shocking, right?

For Sens fans, shocking for sure. For others I am not surprised that you are multi-tasking - we are.

 

[1865]

Connor Timmons, Ilya Samsonov, Mathew Knies and 2nd or 1st for Carter Hart and Rasmus Ristolainen (2mil retained)

You really need to change your username.

 

[Spargon]

So many folks fall for the Toronto media clickbait articles.

Because it gives the hint the Leafs might make a bad move, so it brings the pathetic people glee and they run with it.

 

[Haatley]

Meh Domi's been good, as has Gregor.

Domi is on pace for 45 points. For a guy who plays 3rd line minutes, at 3 mill that's far from a terrible signing.

Oh yeah. Is pacing for 3 goals good?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Oh yeah. Is pacing for 3 goals good?

No, not really, but 45 points is.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Meh Domi's been good, as has Gregor.

Domi is on pace for 45 points. For a guy who plays 3rd line minutes, at 3 mill that's far from a terrible signing.

The person you responded to is proven to be anti Leaf, they have no credibility.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

what the f is going on here? please please watch some flyers games before you start thinking fisto is going to cure anything, for any team. he got a little better last year after they pretty much took all responsibility away from him. he is not as bad as some flyers fans on here think but he is in no way, shape, or form a solution to anyone's problems, 1st,2nd, or 3rd pairing.

I don't know who fisto is but it sounds like something That would be very uncomfortable.

 

[Hextallent63]

I don't know who fisto is but it sounds like something That would be very uncomfortable.

very uncofortable

 

[JRichard]

Played well last night. 19 mins.
-1 but basically a pk goal 3 sec after penalty expired and York is the one to blame on that goal.

Risto was solid again in limited games 6gp.

maybe merge threads?

 

[ponder719]

So many folks fall for the Toronto media clickbait articles.

Well, yes, but in our defense, it'd be really nice to have something go incontrovertibly right for the Flyers.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

You really need to change your username.

I’m a leafs fan btw I’m assuming you’re one of the Toronto fans who think Knies is absolutely untouchable but I’d move him personally for Hart. He’d become the Flyers 2nd best prospect behind Michkov. You can debate Cutter aswell

 

[innitfam]

That seems pretty wild. Risto has a lot of term left, why jump in with both feet to commit like that?

 

[Ace Rimmer]

What is it with Tre and and his fascination with double digit IQ players?

No idea, but it's not unusual. He's liked the player for a while.

Burke: Flames halted trade talks on Ristolainen based on analytics

Brian Burke is about the last guy I would've expected to be a believer...

flamesnation.ca

 

[613Leafer]

Kevin Hayes after finishing 2nd on the team in scoring was traded at 50% retention for a 6th round pick.

If the Leafs acquired Risto, I would imagine it would be a similar looking deal. Leafs rolling the dice on a longterm contract with a half-decent caphit for a questionable player. Philly simply looking to unload half or more of the caphit for a nominal return.

 

[Larry Hanson]

Well, ya. Good teams don’t have a bunch of extra cap space.

The point of it is to use it. If you have some left over improve the team, dumbass (this isn’t directed at you, it’s directed at an imaginary GM who won’t improve his team because he likes spending less against the cap than his competitors)

Now, if certain players actually improve a team is another question all together

Well I have to agree and disagree. If they are spending extra money to noticeably improve the team then that's great, Treliving has a history of spending every dime as soon as he gets it even if it's on mediocre players. There is a real benefit to not being capped out, mainly being able to ice a full roster, take advantage of players becoming available mid season as cap casualties (eg Tolvanen) and accruing space for deadline acquisitions. So the point isn't to use it, it's to use it wisely.

 

[BernieParent]

Every player in history has put together 5 good games before.

If Philly manages to actually get anything above “future considerations” for this, it will deserve to be laughed at uncontrollably

In truth, we would also accept past and present considerations.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Kevin Hayes after finishing 2nd on the team in scoring was traded at 50% retention for a 6th round pick.

If the Leafs acquired Risto, I would imagine it would be a similar looking deal. Leafs rolling the dice on a longterm contract with a half-decent caphit for a questionable player. Philly simply looking to unload half or more of the caphit for a nominal return.

Nah.

For one, Hayes had a HUGE cap hit relative to his contributions—plus a NTC. For another, he's a soft one-way middle 6 C in a league where those are a dime-a-dozen. For yet another, it was clear that he and the coach/franchise in Philly were just not going to make it work. The Flyers were trying to trade a severely overpaid mid-value asset and doing so from a really weak and limited negotiating position.

Risto, as shitty as he typically is, doesn't have most of those problems. Overpaid, but not over the moon for a mediocre RHD—and with retention, could actually be made into a relative bargain contract. Has been playing effective, if one-dimensional hockey. Plays a position of need/scarcity for most teams. And they have no gun to their head to move him immediately, nor do they have any trade limitations in the contract.

If the Flyers trade Ristolainen, it will be for positive value. Somehow, some way.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

No idea, but it's not unusual. He's liked the player for a while.

Burke: Flames halted trade talks on Ristolainen based on analytics

Brian Burke is about the last guy I would've expected to be a believer...

flamesnation.ca

There would have been considerably more interest in Risto back then. A lot of people considered the situation in Buffalo to be a major cause of his struggles. It's been all downhill since and that misconception looks to be cleared up now.

 

[Strangle]

Well I have to agree and disagree. If they are spending extra money to noticeably improve the team then that's great, Treliving has a history of spending every dime as soon as he gets it even if it's on mediocre players. There is a real benefit to not being capped out, mainly being able to ice a full roster, take advantage of players becoming available mid season as cap casualties (eg Tolvanen) and accruing space for deadline acquisitions. So the point isn't to use it, it's to use it wisely.

I agree with your point, you need to stay flexible.

You can do that when spending to the cap, the leafs have been doing it for years with pridham working his cap strengths for the team

 

[notbias]

Oh yeah. Is pacing for 3 goals good?

Goal scoring is not Domi's greatest strength, but he is pacing for around the same amount of points as Huberdeau.

I think he is outpacing all but 5 Calgary forwards... not bad for a 3C making 3 mil.