The Pens won the games they should've won and lost the ones one would've figured they'd lose over the last 7.
I'm not complaining.
I'm also not sure what four of the wins have to do with the caliber of teams they'd see in the playoffs.
Post-Game Talk: Leafs 4, Pens 0 - Because Someone Has To Start a PGT for this Mess
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The Pens won the games they should've won and lost the ones one would've figured they'd lose over the last 7.
I'm not complaining.
I'm also not sure what four of the wins have to do with the caliber of teams they'd see in the playoffs.
cheesedanish87
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The Leafs played a really good game, their was no room for the Pens to do anything.
Sometimes you just got to tip you hat to the other team.
Sometimes you just got to tip you hat to the other team.
I’m concerned for him...hope he doesn’t lose any more games...
-Shultz. SC honeymoon is long over. Either move him down/or out before it goes back to the Oilers days
-Murray. Was almost a wall like against Tampa early on, but then, unscreened shots started to go in. Not that it mattered with no goal support, but seems like he got broken tonight to anoint a new clear #1. Be careful how that works in the playoffs.
-Sid. Once the team got down, so came out the no look passes to Tampa players sticks.
-Sully, some of the worst line adjustments to get the team going. Zucker-Sid-Horny has and will never work bud.
=Geno, not ill, and skated around doing stuff..
+Give that team some hope they don't do much at the trade deadline.They either miss it or get swept out of it, imagine a juicy first round against the Panthers?
-Murray. Was almost a wall like against Tampa early on, but then, unscreened shots started to go in. Not that it mattered with no goal support, but seems like he got broken tonight to anoint a new clear #1. Be careful how that works in the playoffs.
-Sid. Once the team got down, so came out the no look passes to Tampa players sticks.
-Sully, some of the worst line adjustments to get the team going. Zucker-Sid-Horny has and will never work bud.
=Geno, not ill, and skated around doing stuff..
+Give that team some hope they don't do much at the trade deadline.They either miss it or get swept out of it, imagine a juicy first round against the Panthers?
enviSAGE
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The Leafs came out in a playoff-type atmosphere and nobody on the team was ready to match it. I don't think Sully challenged them enough pregame because this could've been a really good litmus test.
++Hornqvist
+McCann
+Lafferty
==Murray
------Malkin
-------Simon
--------Schultz
++Hornqvist
+McCann
+Lafferty
==Murray
------Malkin
-------Simon
--------Schultz
ChaosAgent
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But the underlying numbers and quality of play has noticeably degraded. The same way that so many of us were so optimistic early on in the season when the underlying play was there but the goals weren't...the inverse has been going on for a month.
Not having Marino and Dumo is huge, mind you.
I think this result is going to be a wake-up call. So that's good.
canadianguy77
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Did Simon get a shift in the 3rd? If he's not hurt then I dont understand it.
He is what he is. Most games, he'll have a shift or two where he looks like he belongs in a top-6 role. Some games he has zero shifts where he looks like a top-6 player.
He didnt look any different tonight. So why the switch with Hornqvist? And why is it always either Simon or Hornqvist on L1?
Would be nice to see if Tanev might be a fit, just because you know, a fully functional 1st line that can do damage offensively on a nightly basis might be important in the playoffs.
He is what he is. Most games, he'll have a shift or two where he looks like he belongs in a top-6 role. Some games he has zero shifts where he looks like a top-6 player.
He didnt look any different tonight. So why the switch with Hornqvist? And why is it always either Simon or Hornqvist on L1?
Would be nice to see if Tanev might be a fit, just because you know, a fully functional 1st line that can do damage offensively on a nightly basis might be important in the playoffs.
Jaded-Fan
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+++++++++++++ I missed this one.
Even so, who cares?
With how they have played pretty much all year I don't care if they looked like a team of Forrest Gumps and Rainmen. They have earned a ton of slack for a bad game or even a few in a row.
Even so, who cares?
With how they have played pretty much all year I don't care if they looked like a team of Forrest Gumps and Rainmen. They have earned a ton of slack for a bad game or even a few in a row.
ChaosAgent
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Dude your avatar both impresses and scares the crap outta me.
Thought Malkin was better than you said. Though everyone was pretty bad.
Gumbercules
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I would agree. Their defense is a mix of terrible and inexperience and they have no depth up front. If they run into Boston in the first round, I don't see how they get by them. The Bergeron line will shut down the Matthews line, and after that, aside from Tavares, the Bruins are better up and down the rest of the lineup.
One of the marks of a good team is that they can beat you a bunch of different ways. When the Pens were winning their cups, they could outscore you for the win, they could grind you down for a low scoring win, they could beat you in a special teams battle and their goalies would steal one now and again. The Leafs can only get wins if their top six are clicking.
Big Friggin Dummy
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Schultz sucks, too. Dump his ass off to some team desperate enough for a PMD that they'll overpay.
GMs won't take into account his struggles since the last Cup, all they'll see is a PMD with multiple Cups who put up good numbers once upon a time.
GMs won't take into account his struggles since the last Cup, all they'll see is a PMD with multiple Cups who put up good numbers once upon a time.
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Right now, with Dumo and Marino, I've got Boston and Tampa as the two top teams and the Caps and Pens slightly below. Nobody stands out after that, but I think Toronto is on the better end of the rest of the lot.
WayneSid9987
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The largest one by far is they can't move the puck out with possession.
Right now we have Tanger and well, Tanger.
JJ is actually 2nd best at it atm.
Thats the state of things.
No wonder PIT might have interest in Gustafsson...
Zirakzigil
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I don’t disagree. But the team in front of Murray didn’t show up to play tonight. If they had this game wouldn’t of been so lopsided.
We are already starting to see the impact of losing ZAR has
Mr Jiggyfly
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Game pretty much went how I expected.
Can’t manufacture desperation and Lafferty/Hornqvist are the only ones who seemed to have a pulse.
Also, they need to do a solemn exorcism and remove the Jultz demon.
Can’t manufacture desperation and Lafferty/Hornqvist are the only ones who seemed to have a pulse.
Also, they need to do a solemn exorcism and remove the Jultz demon.
Ehh, those last 7 games included wins against Washington, Florida, and Toronto, 0-1-1 against Tampa, and they killed Montreal and Detroit. With largely the same roster as they had tonight. I’m just saying. I think tonight was more a lack of effort and intensity than it was any sort of roster limitations. They just had a complete stinker of a game. Oh well.
Nah. The Pens showed to play and played a great road game UNTIL they went down 2-0. Then Riikola got the big chance everyone was begging for and blew his assignment on the Kapanen breakaway goal. After THAT, the Pens mailed it in. But, to say they didn't show . . . nah, that's a bridge too far for me. Sorry . . .
ChaosAgent
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I do think there was a certain element of turtling, right after Errey mentioned "feels like this is a 0-0 game" or something to that effect.
I do get inordinately annoyed about the turtling, but the Leafs had a very specific play where they had the 3rd forward rotate up high to get a pass from a point D man...because the Penguins were so collapsed down low all the time. Burned us with it a couple times.
Hope Selke Sid shows up in the playoffs.
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ChaosAgent
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I think everyone aside from RG will admit that Murray was the least of their problems tonight.
Maybe make a hot take that we lost cause no ZAR?
Ryder71
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McCann hasn't scored in how long now? 12 or 13 games? He needs to start producing, period!
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