Value of: (LA/COL) Sean Walker to the Avs

[Freaky Styley]

Something has gotta give on the LA blueline, and it seems like Walker is kind of the odd man out. Avs have a big need on the right side after trading Helleson and Barron and I can't see them keeping both EJ and Manson next season. With his ability and contract, Walker is a perfect target for the Avs, but what would the Kings need?

Avs also have a need at C, so if there is a bigger deal that can include a C coming back, that would be ideal. However I don't see a fit there (assuming Vilardi is likely to be a full time winger)

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[BringTheReign]

Our biggest roster need is at LD, and our biggest system need is at G. We’re still building out of the rebuild, but near NHL-ready prospects would be nice. I could also just see this being a draft pick trade to give Blake more ammo moving around the draft/using in another player trade while freeing up a roster spot.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Our biggest roster need is at LD, and our biggest system need is at G. We’re still building out of the rebuild, but near NHL-ready prospects would be nice. I could also just see this being a draft pick trade to give Blake more ammo moving around the draft/using in another player trade while freeing up a roster spot.

Sam Girard is the only LD we'd have available, but I didn't think he'd fit what Blake would be looking for with the likes of Durzi, Spence, Anderson, Bjornfot and Clarke as undersized puckmovers. I see LA as a prime landing spot for Chychrun if he's moved. If Girard is of interest then a C coming back with Walker would be ideal. But a pick trade straight up definitely works for the Avs. Hopefully the old buddies Blake and Sakic can work something out.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Doesn't look like the Avs really have any available players that fit what LA needs. Not sure if draft picks are what LA's looking for. I'm thinking Walker gets moved to a different team for pieces that they need.

 

[kinghock]

Sam Girard is the only LD we'd have available, but I didn't think he'd fit what Blake would be looking for with the likes of Durzi, Spence, Anderson, Bjornfot and Clarke as undersized puckmovers. I see LA as a prime landing spot for Chychrun if he's moved. If Girard is of interest then a C coming back with Walker would be ideal. But a pick trade straight up definitely works for the Avs. Hopefully the old buddies Blake and Sakic can work something out.

You are correct.

LA defensive squad has enough undersized players.

Girard is not needed here even for free.

In my opinion you can have Walker for 2 round pick.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Girard is not needed here even for free.

Fairly strange statement there... I wouldn't have any interest in Walker for a 2nd round pick personally. Might as well sign Manson or a UFA Defender.

 

[kinghock]

Fairly strange statement there... I wouldn't have any interest in Walker for a 2nd round pick personally. Might as well sign Manson or a UFA Defender.

What part of statement that “LA defensive squad has enough undersized players” you do not understand?

I am sure Girard has value for other teams, but not for Kings.


It is fine if you do not want to give 2 round pick for Walker.

 

[deaderhead28]

Fairly strange statement there... I wouldn't have any interest in Walker for a 2nd round pick personally. Might as well sign Manson or a UFA Defender.

Then kindly move along.

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Sam Girard is the only LD we'd have available, but I didn't think he'd fit what Blake would be looking for with the likes of Durzi, Spence, Anderson, Bjornfot and Clarke as undersized puckmovers. I see LA as a prime landing spot for Chychrun if he's moved. If Girard is of interest then a C coming back with Walker would be ideal. But a pick trade straight up definitely works for the Avs. Hopefully the old buddies Blake and Sakic can work something out.

Who's available on the Avs would be a great start?

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

What part of statement that “LA defensive squad has enough undersized players” you do not understand?

I am sure Girard has value for other teams, but not for Kings.


It is fine if you do not want to give 2 round pick for Walker.

There's a generally mentality around here where fans like to make big statements such as "we don't need so and so even for free" and sometimes that makes sense, if you're talking Kurtis MacDermid. But more often it makes no sense, because there's some aversion to that player's skillset (size, skating, physicality, handedness). The proper response would be 'Girard doesn't meet the Kings overall needs of size from the backend' not 'We don't need Girard even for free' because quite honestly he'd address a significant gap in puck moving and be extremely complimentary to Doughty or Clarke long term on a pairing.

 

[Kurrilino]

There's a generally mentality around here where fans like to make big statements such as "we don't need so and so even for free" and sometimes that makes sense, if you're talking Kurtis MacDermid. But more often it makes no sense, because there's some aversion to that player's skillset (size, skating, physicality, handedness). The proper response would be 'Girard doesn't meet the Kings overall needs of size from the backend' not 'We don't need Girard even for free' because quite honestly he'd address a significant gap in puck moving and be extremely complimentary to Doughty or Clarke long term on a pairing.

The OP was that the Avalanche trade for Walker, not what kind of player you want to dump on the Kings

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Something has gotta give on the LA blueline, and it seems like Walker is kind of the odd man out. Avs have a big need on the right side after trading Helleson and Barron and I can't see them keeping both EJ and Manson next season. With his ability and contract, Walker is a perfect target for the Avs, but what would the Kings need?

Avs also have a need at C, so if there is a bigger deal that can include a C coming back, that would be ideal. However I don't see a fit there (assuming Vilardi is likely to be a full time winger)

If you guys have a talented goalie or winger prospect you can have him instantly

 

[Freaky Styley]

Fairly strange statement there... I wouldn't have any interest in Walker for a 2nd round pick personally. Might as well sign Manson or a UFA Defender.

The ideas would be to retain Manson and acquiring Walker while moving EJ.

Toews - Makar
Byram - Walker/Manson
Girard - Walker/Manson

to give us arguably a better D core we had this season

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If you guys have a talented goalie or winger prospect you can have him instantly

Don't think I'd move Olausson for him, and Avs are too shallow to move Annunen, so I wonder if Kaut would be of any interest. I think he would fit well in the Kings system. Maybe Kaut + a pick.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

For free I take Girard obviously.

Before Spence and Durzi arrived, he would have been a nice addition. LA needed offense from the backline.

 

[Schmooley]

The ideas would be to retain Manson and acquiring Walker while moving EJ.

Toews - Makar
Byram - Walker/Manson
Girard - Walker/Manson

to give us arguably a better D core we had this season

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Don't think I'd move Olausson for him, and Avs are too shallow to move Annunen, so I wonder if Kaut would be of any interest. I think he would fit well in the Kings system. Maybe Kaut + a pick.

Something around Kaut for Walker is probably fair. Its just the Kings are at a point where they shouldnt be doing a 1 for 1 trade.
They should be looking to package Walker, two good prospects, and a first round pick or two for a game changer. They have enough assets to do that kind of deal twice over and probably should if the right forward and dman or goalie become available.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Something around Kaut for Walker is probably fair. Its just the Kings are at a point where they shouldnt be doing a 1 for 1 trade.
They should be looking to package Walker, two good prospects, and a first round pick or two for a game changer. They have enough assets to do that kind of deal twice over and probably should if the right forward and dman or goalie become available.

Rights to Burakovsky could be included in a package like this. We'll see I guess, just think he's a great target for Joe.

 

[Schmooley]

Rights to Burakovsky could be included in a package like this. We'll see I guess, just think he's a great target for Joe.

With his injuries I cant imagine hell cost much. Probably a third round pick. I can swear I read he wont even be available to start next season because his latest injury will not be healed in time.

 

[Kurrilino]

Don't think I'd move Olausson for him, and Avs are too shallow to move Annunen, so I wonder if Kaut would be of any interest. I think he would fit well in the Kings system. Maybe Kaut + a pick.

I wouldn't even ask for a pick

Let's do Walker for Kaut and everyone is happy

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Walker for Kaut would be good imo.

FWIW Kings are at a weird spot, we know we're not going to get 'more' for Walker, but are at a stage where quality > quantity. We have a million prospects and picks and need to start turning them into impact. LA has been arguably the best in the league at filling out the roster with bodies, but what they're missing is blue chippers. So as mentioned above, typically they'd be looking to move a body with additional assets (picks/prospects) to upgrade rather than just add for the future, if that makes sense. Obv. Walker isn't a HUGE piece though so that's trickier here. But at this point Ontario is already jam-packed with prospects with more on the way so another A-/B+ prospect is kind of a detriment rather than a boon.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Something has gotta give on the LA blueline, and it seems like Walker is kind of the odd man out. Avs have a big need on the right side after trading Helleson and Barron and I can't see them keeping both EJ and Manson next season. With his ability and contract, Walker is a perfect target for the Avs, but what would the Kings need?

Avs also have a need at C, so if there is a bigger deal that can include a C coming back, that would be ideal. However I don't see a fit there (assuming Vilardi is likely to be a full time winger)

I would rather resign Manson.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I would rather resign Manson.

This is meant to replace EJ (who we hopefully move after he raises a cup), while retaining Manson

 

[unicornpig]

There's a generally mentality around here where fans like to make big statements such as "we don't need so and so even for free" and sometimes that makes sense, if you're talking Kurtis MacDermid. But more often it makes no sense, because there's some aversion to that player's skillset (size, skating, physicality, handedness). The proper response would be 'Girard doesn't meet the Kings overall needs of size from the backend' not 'We don't need Girard even for free' because quite honestly he'd address a significant gap in puck moving and be extremely complimentary to Doughty or Clarke long term on a pairing.

Are you're feelings hurt by the comment lol

 

[GirardSpinorama]

This is meant to replace EJ (who we hopefully move after he raises a cup), while retaining Manson

I think we let EJ play out the year next year. He's got enough left in the tank.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I think we let EJ play out the year next year. He's got enough left in the tank.

It's more about saving the nearly 2-4M in cap space while not sacrificing much (if any) talent that a Manson-Walker combo gives us over Manson - EJ or EJ-Walker combo. I'm glad EJ is playing well and wish him the best, but the better he plays just means that we can actually get somewhat of a return on him rather than just a pure cap dump. Perhaps even grab a pick that can be flipped for Walker. I also think it's unlikely we keep EJ AND re-sign Manson. I think it's either/or

 

[YP44]

Walker is a good player for the avs to target.

 

[YP44]

Also I would deal Durzi if there is interest.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Walker for Kaut would be good imo.

FWIW Kings are at a weird spot, we know we're not going to get 'more' for Walker, but are at a stage where quality > quantity. We have a million prospects and picks and need to start turning them into impact. LA has been arguably the best in the league at filling out the roster with bodies, but what they're missing is blue chippers. So as mentioned above, typically they'd be looking to move a body with additional assets (picks/prospects) to upgrade rather than just add for the future, if that makes sense. Obv. Walker isn't a HUGE piece though so that's trickier here. But at this point Ontario is already jam-packed with prospects with more on the way so another A-/B+ prospect is kind of a detriment rather than a boon.

Completely agree.

And if nothing else transpired, this deal would be good just to have made a little extra cap space for the next big acquisition.