gb701 said:
Wow - four whole games! Amazing - must be why your opinion would count and that of the scouts or those who have watched him over years doesn't.
I don't think he told the opinions of certain scouts (are you sure ALL the scouts think highly of Chipchura?) doesn't count. Four games, BTW, is not such a bad number.
In the years where I was trying to see as many CHLers/draftees as possible, that's pretty much all I could afford and over the years, I've come to realize it might be as well that way. Juniors like you may think we need to watch a guy 50 times to make a correct assessment but simply put, there just isn't enough time to do so in a hockey season if you wanna see a lot of the given year's crop.
Grab a calculator, see for yourself.
There just aren't enough days in a hockey year to give a superb level of attention to most prospects. It sucks but what can you do, apart from listening quietly to know-nothings whining because they expect you to see all guys 15 times?
Every year, whether I watch the NHL, CHL, etc. I try to keep a notebook on all the hockey periods I see. I know by now that every game I watch, say, Michael Ryder, it's a game I am not watching Hunter or Bergeron or Pitkanen. Same thing when I watched a lot of CHL hockey.
It was even worse when I went to see the guys live in the Q. This is extremely time-consuming and you can't watch that many games in a hockey year.
The bottom line is, if you watch Chipchura 10-12 times, then there are other players you will not have time to watch as much, if at all.
gb701 said:
Reminds me of criticism of those who have said Crosby is overrated because they saw 3-4 of his less impressive games.
That may have something to do with the intelligence of the person, as opposed to the number of games they have seen Crosby in. Ever thought of that?
Although we'd have to put it in context of the posts. Depending on the claims that were made, they may have been right in certain cases that Crosby was overrated by *certain individuals*. I've seen some pretty wild claims thrown at Crosby, Ovechkin and other prospects that are pretty... out there.
gb701 said:
Seriously - to call someone overrated on the limited basis you described is just silly and says a lot more about you than about his potential.
Well tell us, please, how omniscience works. I've tried Voodoo, yoga and **** but it still doesn't work. I've though of a consultation in Tibet but that would eat time in the hockey season.
But you find me a way where I can see all the good young players 10 times a year. Better yet, don't TELL me. SELL me. I'd buy it and give you lots of money for this. And so would "pro scouts" and the 30 NHL teams.
The saddest thing is seeing people like you show their irritating combination of ignorance and arrogance to put down someone like Moosefan. While I don't always agree with him, he contributes a lot and his opinion is not made of thin air.
And if all that matters to you is the opinion of pro scouts, you might be better off leaving this community. What you need is a CSS list and perhaps those clown at Redline.
I became sold on HF when I got some totally unique perspective on players that weren't talked about much, were rated extremely low and ended up being much better than what "the pro scouts" expected, apparently. I was pretty glad I listened to some folks here. There are some people who have interesting things to say, even if they aren't pro scouts. This place happens to be where they share their thoughts.