Player Discussion: Kieffer Bellows *Waived - Claimed by Philadelphia Flyers*

[Seph]

Third lines are not exclusively shut down lines any more

If Trotz chooses to play grinders on the third line over Bellows, which is the situation we are discussing here, then it's pretty clear that Trotz will be using the line primarily as a shutdown line.

 

[LamorielloAndSon]

If Trotz chooses to play grinders on the third line over Bellows, which is the situation we are discussing here, then it's pretty clear that Trotz will be using the line primarily as a shutdown line.

Kovar isn’t a grinder

 

[Seph]

Kovar isn’t a grinder

Firsr off,we dont know what Kovar is at the NHL level. But more important, is the situation we are are discussing here is if Trotz chooses to play grinders on the third line over Bellows.

 

[Uncle Duke]

How many of our age would still be willing to jump into the sack with Barbara Eden . . . PLENTY

Uh, she's 87. Pass.

 

[replayer]

I think the days of starting rookies on lower lines making them earn their ascension in the roster are gone. It was disastrous for The Swiss Miss and it doesn't have seem to helped any of our kids over the years.

We haven't had a real coach in decades. That makes a difference.

 

[Words Of Wisdom]

Really hope the kid gets his chance, he’s certainly proving a point in the pre-season thus far.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

The way I see it, Bellows and Ho-Sang will be the replacements for Lee and Eberle when they are traded at the deadline. Kovar can be the full time #2C after Nelson is undoubtedly traded as well.

I am glad you are not running the team.
Getting rid of 2 of our 5 best scorers does not sound like a recipe for success to me.

 

[Macch]

I am glad you are not running the team.
Getting rid of 2 of our 5 best scorers does not sound like a recipe for success to me.

It actually is in this case. Scoring wingers is one of the organizational strengths.

It’d be bad business to give both Lee and Eberle huge contracts when we have holes in other places.

We’re probably not a playoff team which means any player in the last year of his deal (Nelson, Lee, Eberle, Kovar, Filppula) are all potential trade deadlines candidates

 

[LamorielloAndSon]

It actually is in this case. Scoring wingers is one of the organizational strengths.

It’d be bad business to give both Lee and Eberle huge contracts when we have holes in other places.

We’re probably not a playoff team which means any player in the last year of his deal (Nelson, Lee, Eberle, Kovar, Filppula) are all potential trade deadlines candidates

I think kovar stays and Filppula has an nmc

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

It actually is in this case. Scoring wingers is one of the organizational strengths.

It’d be bad business to give both Lee and Eberle huge contracts when we have holes in other places.

We’re probably not a playoff team which means any player in the last year of his deal (Nelson, Lee, Eberle, Kovar, Filppula) are all potential trade deadlines candidates

It would be worse business to not negotiate with them after LL is done with his assessment. Trading deadline deals would bring us back picks, pushing us further into the future before we are competitive.
Under Snow, we lacked veteran leadership that could still perform on the ice.
No interest in returning to the bad old days.

 

[DalGoal4Cups]

Bellows is a stud. Big, strong, powerful skater (no fast but a strong skater), ELITE wrist shot, ELITE one timer, ELITE snap shot. Pretty good passing vision as well, strong in the corners. Everything we wanted in dallbust.

 

[IODCPiper]

It actually is in this case. Scoring wingers is one of the organizational strengths.

It’d be bad business to give both Lee and Eberle huge contracts when we have holes in other places.

We’re probably not a playoff team which means any player in the last year of his deal (Nelson, Lee, Eberle, Kovar, Filppula) are all potential trade deadlines candidates

This^^^

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

Very solid ply so far

 

[buud]

It actually is in this case. Scoring wingers is one of the organizational strengths.

It’d be bad business to give both Lee and Eberle huge contracts when we have holes in other places.

We’re probably not a playoff team which means any player in the last year of his deal (Nelson, Lee, Eberle, Kovar, Filppula) are all potential trade deadlines candidates

idk. i think more about value, i guess. if we give them big contracts, we can always make other changes, like Ladd on IR and Boychuk gone in two years, are possibilities.

i like both Lee and Eberle, and would like to keep them, if they accept reasonable offers. sign them, and then make other roster changes.

if we get a chance to sign Panarin, i say we do. sure, we are strong on the wings, but sign Panarin, and make a trade or two, to open up a spot for him. an upgrade is an upgrade. do it if we can...

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Bellows is a stud. Big, strong, powerful skater (no fast but a strong skater), ELITE wrist shot, ELITE one timer, ELITE snap shot. Pretty good passing vision as well, strong in the corners. Everything we wanted in dallbust.

I've liked a good bit of what I've seen, although playing with Gionta and Sislo showed that he could quickly become rather invisible.

However, I don't think he's looking big. He's 6 foot and almost 200 lbs., so he's got fine measures, but the eye test in the preseason games has me thinking that he's looked kind of on the smaller side.

The shot is major league though. I think he could play in the NHL this year and as long as he was with a couple of skill players, he could already pop in 15-20 goals (albeit he'd have plenty of growing pains).

But a day will come where he has a bit of experience and his man strength and that shot alone should have him being a regular 30+ goal threat. It is lethal.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

I've liked a good bit of what I've seen, although playing with Gionta and Sislo showed that he could quickly become rather invisible.

However, I don't think he's looking big. He's 6 foot and almost 200 lbs., so he's got fine measures, but the eye test in the preseason games has me thinking that he's looked kind of on the smaller side.

The shot is major league though. I think he could play in the NHL this year and as long as he was with a couple of skill players, he could already pop in 15-20 goals (albeit he'd have plenty of growing pains).

But a day will come where he has a bit of experience and his man strength and that shot alone should have him being a regular 30+ goal threat. It is lethal.

He was sent down

 

[Doshell Propivo]

He was sent down

No surprise. He'll get his shot soon enough.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

No surprise. He'll get his shot soon enough.

I dont think this year is his year. Next will be optimal, maybe Bridgeport can get him some playoff experience

 

[PWJunior]

I dont think this year is his year. Next will be optimal, maybe Bridgeport can get him some playoff experience

I think he comes up after the trade deadline and finishes in the NHL. Should be a springboard for him to win a roster spot to start in the NHL next season.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

I think he comes up after the trade deadline and finishes in the NHL. Should be a springboard for him to win a roster spot to start in the NHL next season.

Would you really want that?

If Bridgeport is in a playoff spot, Id much rather him be there and getting that experience. If they arent I totally agree though

 

[aronjudge11]

idk. i think more about value, i guess. if we give them big contracts, we can always make other changes, like Ladd on IR and Boychuk gone in two years, are possibilities.

i like both Lee and Eberle, and would like to keep them, if they accept reasonable offers. sign them, and then make other roster changes.

if we get a chance to sign Panarin, i say we do. sure, we are strong on the wings, but sign Panarin, and make a trade or two, to open up a spot for him. an upgrade is an upgrade. do it if we can...

Lou is not waiting to evaluate Lee or Eberle. They are both well proven and reliable. HE Will only sign them if all the younger wingers fail. And he will have to pay a higher amount for waiting. LEE especially wants to stay so if you make him.wait till mid winter he's now three months from UFA he's not in a rush to sign. Now he wants to sign because he likes it here and he may get injured. So to me they are both on the way out unless one of them has kids in the school system and a wife who made a bestie here and she doesn't want to move. The bad part is if the ISLES are good and now you are trading both at the deadline even when you are winning. LOU WILL not let them walk after witnessing the JT fiasco

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Kind of surprised given how Bellows played. I believe we will see him later this year. It may be a very short stay in Bridgeport IMO.

 

[Macch]

Would you really want that?

If Bridgeport is in a playoff spot, Id much rather him be there and getting that experience. If they arent I totally agree though

You can bring Bellows up and send him back down for AHL playoffs.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

You can bring Bellows up and send him back down for AHL playoffs.

Yes you can but other than a 9-game stint (if he is even eligible for that anymore) why bother when its directly before the playoffs?

Sure get his maximum # of NHL games in but AHL playoffs > NHL experience IMO, if you had to choose

 

[doublechili]

Everything we wanted in dallbust.

At first glance I read that as "balldust", which sounds like something you'd go to the confidential consultation area of the pharmacy for.