Kessel #2 Pick in 2005 Draft

[Letang fan 58]

Without question Kessel would have gone 2nd overall behind Crosby in last years draft, some scouts/gm's went as far as to say he may have gone first...not sure I believe that but that is fine.

Now Kessel is falling and may not even be first in the 2006 draft. could be as low as 3rd from what gm's scouts and others are saying.

Is it that people finally figured out Kessel's move and they are now consistently shutting it down? Is it that they dont think he can pass? Is it that he is just coming back to the pack in general?

Does this remind anyone of the Gilbert Brule Draft???? Sure reminds me of it, Brule going into last season was a sure fire 2nd pick and some thought really would challenge Crosby for first. there was many around these boards who consistently said Brule was better, then he falls to what 5th?

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[TheViperOne]

Brule fell to 6th

 

[HockeyMan9]

Brule fell to 6th

And as a Blue Jackets fan i couldn't be happier

 

[Ville Isopaa]

so, who goes no.1 in that case?

 

[nazzy]

so, who goes no.1 in that case?

toews or johnson?

 

[Daily Special]

toews or johnson?

rofls @ "toews"

 

[Sherlock]

I don't know, but I was very impressed with Johnson at the WJC. Enough to bump Kessel? As a GM, I'd consider it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

toews or johnson?

Any GM to take Toews first overall will easily be considered one of the worst GMs in the league.

 

[Metallian*]

In this case, GM's will draft based on need and not the best man available. I think if its Pittsburgh they go and draft Johnson cuz their D is so depleted, but if its (for example) Chicago they draft Kessel because they'd need him a bit more

 

[Amazing Oopah]

Keseel didn't do anything to slip from the #1 spot... but E. Johnson did enough to be considered at the #1.

Dunno, I think whoever gets the picks will have to decide what they want: a blue chip forward prospect or a blue chip blue line prospect.

 

[AgentNaslund*]

Any GM to take Toews first overall will easily be considered one of the worst GMs in the league.

I feel the same to the gm that takes Kessel over Crosby.

 

[Vote for Rory]

Does this remind anyone of the Gilbert Brule Draft???? Sure reminds me of it, Brule going into last season was a sure fire 2nd pick and some thought really would challenge Crosby for first. there was many around these boards who consistently said Brule was better, then he falls to what 5th?

This is how it works. Every year a player who was ranked high at the begining of the year will drop down. Every year a player who was ranked low with jump up. It happens ever year, and this year it looks like it could be the projected #1 pick that will drop.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I feel the same to the gm that takes Kessel over Crosby.

Kind of needless to even bring something like that up.

Kessel is either 1 or 2 in this draft. If a GM takes Toews over Kessel, he is an idiot. And that is my honest opinion.

 

[McDonald19]

Kind of needless to even bring something like that up.

Kessel is either 1 or 2 in this draft. If a GM takes Toews over Kessel, he is an idiot. And that is my honest opinion.

Agreed. Johnson is the only one who could go #1 other than Kessel, and that's only if a team really wants a #1 d-man.

 

[Letang fan 58]

Kind of needless to even bring something like that up.

Kessel is either 1 or 2 in this draft. If a GM takes Toews over Kessel, he is an idiot. And that is my honest opinion.

Id say its a little early to be saying someone would be an idiot for taking Toews.....clearly they are 2 very different players, Toes is a lot younger nearly a full year, he is a better 2 way player than kessel, Does he have the shot or speed...no....will he be a solid player and possibly catch up to Kessel yes.

for the others who have posted reply's clearly i feel Erik Johnson would go first if Kessel doesnt, personally i still take Kessel first, but I do think that Kessel has been exposed as someone who has 1 great move and not a lot other right now, do i think he wont develop more good moves in the future? no....of course he will develop more....I just think he has been relying on that drag inside out move way to much and dmen all over are seeing it and shutting him down.

Also i dont think it helped that Kessel disappeared in the 2 big games of the juniors, he was non existent vs Canada or Russia.

Did Toews show much vs russia or usa, not really.

 

[Letang fan 58]

Any GM to take Toews first overall will easily be considered one of the worst GMs in the league.

little early for talk like that, I also believe that Anaheim taking Bobby Ryan over Jack Johnson was one of the stupidest GM moves in the last few years. But it happened.

 

[Daily Special]

Toes is a lot younger nearly a full year, he Does he have the shot or speed...no....will he be a solid player yes.

What you just described says 2nd liner at best.

No shot or speed = no top 3 consideration

That player description barely warrants first round even.

 

[Phanuthier*]

rofls @ "toews"

You said USA is guerenteed to win gold... they didn't.

You said USA is guerenteed to beat Canada... they didn't.

You said USA is guerenteed to beat Russia... they didn't.

You said Russia is guerenteed to curb stomp Canada... they didn't.

You said Pogge would get lite up like a Christmas tree against Russia... they didn't.

You said USA would curb stomp Finland... they didn't.

You said USA would light up Rask... they didn't.

So, I guess that almost guerentees that Towes will go No 1!

 

[Brandinho]

I feel the same to the gm that takes Kessel over Crosby.

Nobody cares. They're in different drafts, so it's asinine to make comparisons like this.

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The only people who think Towes is worthy of going #1 overall are biased Canadians who can't tolerate the fact that an American is the best draft-eligible player. The #1 overall pick will be either Kessel or Erik Johnson, depending on if a team needs a defenseman or not.

 

[Sammy*]

I feel the same to the gm that takes Kessel over Crosby.

Actually, Toews over the golden child is possible & isnt ridiculous.
Kessel over Crosby is a joke.

 

[Sammy*]

Nobody cares. They're in different drafts, so it's asinine to make comparisons like this.

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The only people who think Towes is worthy of going #1 overall are biased Canadians who can't tolerate the fact that an American is the best draft-eligible player. The #1 overall pick will be either Kessel or Erik Johnson, depending on if a team needs a defenseman or not.

No actually, actually there are scouts out there that think there is a reasonable possibilty that Toews will make a far better pro. They prefer to wait another half year before making their final assesment.
The only people who think there is no chance of Towes going #1 overall are biased Americans who can't tolerate the fact that a Canadian may be the best draft-eligible player, particularly in a year where the golden child is being drafted.

 

[Checker*]

My advice to whoever gets the 1st overall pick (hopefully the Blues)...Trade down

Kessel could burn you either way as if you select him, he does have a bust factor to him. If you select Toews and Kessel plays to his potential, you'll look like an idiot. I'd say hope that someone with a top 10 pick really likes Kessel or Johnson and will part with some assets to move up. Then select a Staal, Mueller, or Backstrom. All 3 of those guys could end up being every bit as good as Kessel or Toews.

 

[OilerOlli*]

Kessel will be the #1 pick overall! 99,9999999%

 

[Letang fan 58]

What you just described says 2nd liner at best.

No shot or speed = no top 3 consideration

That player description barely warrants first round even.

i did not say he has no shot or no speed, he has an above average shot, above average speed, hes got good offensive ability, but is he like bure, i mean kessel? no. however he dwarfs kessel's defensive abilities as well.

 

[Letang fan 58]

Kessel will be the #1 pick overall! 99,9999999%

well we already have 1 nhl gm (brian burke) on record saying there is no way hed take Kessel first. so there goes the 99%