News: Ken Holland’s Strategy for the Trade Deadline

Voight

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Where is this “hoarding draft picks” thing coming from when the Oilers haven’t had a full draft in years?

They've moved a couple 2nds and 3rds, but could add a very good player(s) should they move their 1st. Completing the roster with young ELC talent is good, but so is going all in when you have a player like McDavid.

Ken Holland has won in the NHL.

In 99, he went out and got:
* Chelios
* Ranford
* Wendel Clark
* Ulf Samuelsson.

First round exit.
Team never gelled.

In a lot of ways, I see how the game has passed Kenny Holland by.
On the other hand, I guarantee you that Holland has forgotten more about winning than guys like Dubas have ever known.

Making big, splashy moves can big a big failure.

Over the years, some of Holland's best deadline moves have been:
* Larry Murphy - for a song.
* Brad Stuart -for a 2nd and 4th.

So stay out of the deadline silliness.
Identify good, solid players who'll help.
Wait out the market until the big spenders have blown their assets.
Get a good, helpful player cheap.


What Holland should do, however, is fire Woodcroft and hire a real coach who forces McDavid to play some defense.

Murphy was acquired by Devellano.
 

Habs Halifax

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Another move to come shortly for the Oilers or was the Puljujarvi trade a move to make now for cap space (daily formula getting too close)?

We will see.
 

Drew311

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Why tf they didn't fire him already?
He is by far the worst GM in the league. So scared to make a move and be criticized by the old boys club around the league. When you have the best player in the league you move heaven an earth to compete for the cup every single season you have him. f*** he's so overrated from his time in Detroit.
 
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MBH

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Ken Holland as a contender is a good GM.
Even at this stage.
Not a great GM, but a good one.

Holland doesn't want to giveaway Broberg or Bouchard for a rental.

But I bet he might for Chychrun.
 

WarriorofTime

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Why is the Edmonton media so soft on Holland? In many other markets, he'd be roasted to shreds, but seems like in Edmonton he's "one of the boys"
 
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ricky0034

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Uhh what about the Russian Five? Larry Murphy? Lidstrom? etc

he didn't "inherit" Lidstrom, Fedorov, Konstantinov,or Kozlov, he was literally the teams director of amateur scouting when they were drafted

hard to say he "inherited" the traded for guys too even if he didn't have the GM title at the time when he had an assistant GM title and was for example personally involved in the Fetisov trade
 

WarriorofTime

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he didn't "inherit" Lidstrom, Fedorov, Konstantinov,or Kozlov, he was literally the teams director of amateur scouting when they were drafted

hard to say he "inherited" the traded for guys too even if he didn't have the GM title at the time when he had an assistant GM title and was for example personally involved in the Fetisov trade
So he did good working under others
 
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Ovi895

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It's actually mind blowng to me that the Oilers did not trade a single first rounder at the deadline in the McDavid/Drasaitl era. If I was either of them I'd have asked out at this point just on that principle. It's not like the Oilers are turning those first rounders into gold - their drafting is trash. Even a "hit" like Yamamoto happens in a draft where other teams pick Norris, Thomas, Chytil, Jokiharju, Hague, Robertson right around there.

Imagine the Oilers going into the playoffs with Orlov and Hathaway on top of their roster, plus O'Reilly. They could have paid for both and given up about what the Leafs were comfortable giving up this deadline, on top of the Leafs having paid substantially last year for Giordano and the year before for Foligno. Yet the Leafs are still fine as an organization going forward prospect wise, not great but not terrible. Tampa, an infinitely better organization than Edmonton did not shy from overpaying for the group of Coleman, Goodrow, Savard, Hagel and Jeannot, and have a lot more to show for it than Edmonton. Like, you can trade for players who are cost controlled RFAs or on multi year contracts like Toronto did with McCabe if you're that scurred of burning a 1st for just a few months of play. Someone tell Holland that a Tanner Jeannot can be relatively cheaply extended to remain with your team for a long time and a 2023 1st and 2nd probably had as much value to Nashville with David Poile going out with a bang in his final chance to draft a mofo as Tampa's gazillion 2025 picks.

I guess Edmonton can look forward to having a middle of the road team when Holloway, Broberg, Bourgault and Bouchard all hit their primes as mid lineup players in the post McDavid era
 
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Connor McConnor

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Still plenty of good D men on the market. As long as he doesn't panic he should get one of the good ones. Here's to hoping it's Chychrun or Ekholm not Edmundson/Myers/Klingberg
 

sting101

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Hollands phone ringing in background
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Garbageyuk

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A bait thread on HF where hockey “fans” pile on without caring about context and don’t understand what the trade deadline is?

Shocking.
He was feeling the heat and decided he’d better do something lol.
 

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