Justin Holl +9
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You can also look at James Reimer's numbers. What do these 2 have in common? I'll take "things that happen early in the season and won't continue" for $400, Alex.
Holl was a solid defenceman, just extremely misused here. He’s a good third pairing defenceman who can PK as well. We unfortunately were using him as a second pairing dman.
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Just imagine how much better this team would be with Holl and Lafferty instead of Klingberg and Reaves… they’d even have cap space for a spare skater
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Rielly and Brodie are both at +9 (Holl is actually down to +7 now 
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You sure you’re not thinking about the current #3? Holl served a role here and got ran out of town by idiots who can’t comprehend what they see on the ice.
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Why does every thread lead back to Dubas?
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What the hell are you talking about. Being run out of town would be being booed every time he touches the puck and getting so bad that management and the player decide its best to move on via trade. Holl was a UFA who signed somewhere else.
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Where did I mention dubas? Brad could’ve resigned Holl and not traded Lafferty.
You made it about Kyle
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You impressed with what you saw last year? Holl and Lafferty do anything in the playoffs to help?
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Dubas had all year to re-sign him. I assumed that's who you were referring to
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Bloody hell, Holl's +/- is dropping as quickly as I remembered it to. HahaRielly and Brodie are both at +9 (Holl is actually down to +7 now
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I think he was implying that Dubas doesn't understand what was happening on the ice
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be easy on him , poor guys still upset from Dubas getting kicked to the curb like a piece of garbage
i'm surprised he doesn't also miss Noel (1pt for 2m x 3yrs) Acari
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I'd take him over Klingberg... but I think I'd rather every other D (including Timmins) to play over him, so he'd be in the pressbox/minors here.
His real strength was helping us on the PK which is actually missed, but overall play, not so much, he got passed on the depth chart.
I don't think he was re-signing him even if he was here... Holl was getting low ice time and being sat... I think Keefe didn't trust him towards the end of the year/playoffs. It just sucked that Liljegren was bad in the playoffs too.
His real strength was helping us on the PK which is actually missed, but overall play, not so much, he got passed on the depth chart.
I don't think he was re-signing him even if he was here... Holl was getting low ice time and being sat... I think Keefe didn't trust him towards the end of the year/playoffs. It just sucked that Liljegren was bad in the playoffs too.
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He was out of his depth the way we were using him. Not necessarily his fault obv but he was definitely not great for us
You guys might want to check out Holls stats in Toronto.
His four seasons here:
+13, +16,+14, +15
He wasn't responsible for the majority of the goals against on this team, he just made very egregious mistakes when he was responsible which is why everyone here made him a whipping boy. This is why volume stats are more important than the eye test.
His four seasons here:
+13, +16,+14, +15
He wasn't responsible for the majority of the goals against on this team, he just made very egregious mistakes when he was responsible which is why everyone here made him a whipping boy. This is why volume stats are more important than the eye test.
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