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Signing(s): JuJu Smith-Schuster re-signs with the Steelers (1 year, $8 million)

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Rhaegar Targaryen said:
I mean, he hasn’t really been that great since his sophomore season.
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Not as big of numbers, but he really put on muscle and looked like a new player to me last year. He came up clutch several times in pushing through for an extra yard or 2 when really needed.

I have to wonder if there is some kind of handshake longer term deal to kick in next year when the Steelers aren't in cap hell. Otherwise, this is a big risk on Juju's part if he turned down multi-year deals. Really can't argue about the value for the Steelers. Next year is Ben's last stand. Might as well give 'er hell.
 
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JetsWillFly4Ever said:
lol the Patriots really f***in blew it signing Agholor and Bourne to those deals lol. Bill is horrible with WR lately.
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Lately? In 20 years, they only WR we developed and who succeeded for more than a year or two is Julian Edelman.

Malcolm Mitchell was trending in the right direction... before injuries did him in.

That's pretty much the list.

I mean, since 2007, we did not really hit on WRs outside of Edelman. We acquired some guys that had an impact, but nothing major. A guy like Cooks had a good year. Amendola was serviceable. Hogan had two good years. And none of these guys were world beaters.
 
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Scandale du Jour said:
Lately? In 20 years, they only WR we developed and who succeeded for more than a year or two is Julian Edelman.

Malcolm Mitchell was trending in the right direction... before injuries did him in.

That's pretty much the list.

I mean, since 2007, we did not really hit on WRs outside of Edelman. We acquired some guys that had an impact, but nothing major. A guy like Cooks had a good year. Amendola was serviceable. Hogan had two good years. And none of these guys were world beaters.
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You're right, I just put lately to avoid the inevitable 'RANDY MOSS, WES WELKER, EDELMAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU TALKIN BOUT' type.
 
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JetsWillFly4Ever said:
You're right, I just put lately to avoid the inevitable 'RANDY MOSS, WES WELKER, EDELMAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU TALKIN BOUT' type.
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Yeah, that's why I mentionned 2007, that's when we got Moss and Welker (also Stallworth). That's probably the last time we hit BIG on WRs.

I mean, Pats have obviously great on offense and defense for 20 years, but WRs were VERY RARELY a strength.
 
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Scandale du Jour said:
Yeah, that's why I mentionned 2007, that's when we got Moss and Welker (also Stallworth). That's probably the last time we hit BIG on WRs.

I mean, Pats have obviously great on offense and defense for 20 years, but WRs were VERY RARELY a strength.
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Having the best QB of all time masked a lot of inefficiencies. Gronk was obviously unreal too. Skill positions have been lacking for a while now.

I'm interested to see how this new offense will do, Jonnu/Henry are good but are a long way from Gronk/Hernandez. Running backs are kinda JAGs, WR are still not a strength. Cam is a question mark and I'm assuming they will draft someone. Should be interesting.
 
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JetsWillFly4Ever said:
Having the best QB of all time masked a lot of inefficiencies. Gronk was obviously unreal too. Skill positions have been lacking for a while now.

I'm interested to see how this new offense will do, Jonnu/Henry are good but are a long way from Gronk/Hernandez. Running backs are kinda JAGs, WR are still not a strength. Cam is a question mark and I'm assuming they will draft someone. Should be interesting.
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Defense should be a strength.

OL is definitely a strength.

TE is a strength (though not to the level of the hey days of Hernandez/Gronk)

WR is meh. Last year, the WRs were HORRIBLE! Deep class at WR in the draft, so perhaps they grab one in round 2 or round 3.

RB are average. Not a strength, not a weakness. Michel and Harris are fine. They need to had a pass-catching back though. I'd love if they brought back White, but I feel he is Tampa bound.

QB is the big question mark. I think Cam is toast. He won't learn to read a defense or feel the pass rush at 32 and he lost some of his escapibility. As a back-up and a mentor, I love having him on the team. He was very good leader for the team last year despite sucking on the field. I am confortable with him being the starter if we draft a QB high and that QB can develop for a year. With better weapons, he should have better passing numbers (not a huge challenge considering how shitty he was).

That being said, if we get improved QB play, the improved roster should be enough to make the playoffs. Pats went 7-9 last year playing a tough schedule and having a terrible roster. I do not think we are contenders, but if we draft the right guy, we could be by next season... or maybe I am being overly optimistic.
 
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Scandale du Jour said:
Defense should be a strength.

OL is definitely a strength.

TE is a strength (though not to the level of the hey days of Hernandez/Gronk)

WR is meh. Last year, the WRs were HORRIBLE! Deep class at WR in the draft, so perhaps they grab one in round 2 or round 3.

RB are average. Not a strength, not a weakness. Michel and Harris are fine. They need to had a pass-catching back though. I'd love if they brought back White, but I feel he is Tampa bound.

QB is the big question mark. I think Cam is toast. He won't learn to read a defense or feel the pass rush at 32 and he lost some of his escapibility. As a back-up and a mentor, I love having him on the team. He was very good leader for the team last year despite sucking on the field. I am confortable with him being the starter if we draft a QB high and that QB can develop for a year. With better weapons, he should have better passing numbers (not a huge challenge considering how shitty he was).

That being said, if we get improved QB play, the improved roster should be enough to make the playoffs. Pats went 7-9 last year playing a tough schedule and having a terrible roster. I do not think we are contenders, but if we draft the right guy, we could be by next season... or maybe I am being overly optimistic.
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Defense will have to be very good imo. I think they will be very run heavy, ask Cam to not turn it over and try to play stellar D. Having Jonnu/Henry does open up passing when it looks like run which can help when you don't have any alpha type receivers. Sony/Harris are meh, I think Harris could take a step and be the bell-cow so I wouldn't be committed to trying Sony unless Harris shows he can't do it.

I think playoffs is realistic, without drafting a stud at QB though the ceiling is limited on the roster.
 
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Why are the chiefs looking to give money to a WR? With their limited cap, figure they would spend money on OL or Defence. Should be able to add another WR via the draft in rounds 2-4.
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Beats me. Apparently they were after him and offered more than Pitt.

And yes agree.
 
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