Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3

[L'Aveuglette]

Quite the chasm between "minor set back" and potentially LTIR'd. They're clearly not being honest at all with the fanbase.

 

[dmarc]

Yeah feel awful for the player, feel awful for the team.
More than anything just wish the team was a bit more transparent, I get why they aren't but certainly feels like were being strung along.
Bought his jersey last year hoping it would be good for the next seven seasons, now it might just be a collectors item, hard to not get Klefbom vibes from this, just sad

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Dorion increased his offer to 1.1 this morning

You mean Staios and Andlauer. I thought Dorion was just handcuffed now and all decisions go to Staios?

 

[swiftwin]

lmao, y'all are such spazzes

 

[Gil Gunderson]

You mean Staios and Andlauer. I thought Dorion was just handcuffed now and all decisions go to Staios?

Neither of them were here when Dorion made the dumb moves that led to this predicament. Those Matt Murray and MDZ signings (and eventual buyout) are some of the biggest unforced errors I've seen a GM make.

 

[Icelevel]

You mean Staios and Andlauer. I thought Dorion was just handcuffed now and all decisions go to Staios?

Pierre is still in charge of pizza toppings. You know, day to day topperations.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Neither of them were here when Dorion made the dumb moves that led to this predicament.

Not really. Andlauer was always in the mix.

 

[KingAlfie11]

He ran into some headwinds swimming from Halifax to Truro

He we go again!!! We can't catch a f***ing break!! Now we need Pinto more then ever!!! Oh boy! I need a drink

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Not really. Andlauer was always in the mix.

Andlauer wasn't here when Dorion signed Matt Murray and MDZ. Those dumb decisions are still hurting the team.

 

[swiftwin]

Neither of them were here when Dorion made the dumb moves that led to this predicament. Those Matt Murray and MDZ signings (and eventual buyout) are some of the biggest unforced errors I've seen a GM make.

*signing Tarasenko was the unforced error

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Not really. Andlauer was always in the mix.

Andlauer became the owner on September 21st.

 

[KingAlfie11]

Yeah the pickle were in was created by PD but how that Staios is at the top how they get out of this pickle is on him also not just PD.

 

[Big Muddy]

Andlauer became the owner on September 21st.

Yes, I think posters talking about the unforced errors are talking about many events that happened before this summer. You can add later events that occurred early/mid summer too if you want as well. At any rate, there's a list of them.

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Just LTIR him and sign Pinto. Jesus Christ the lack of transparency with this god damn organization is making me think that Melnyk is still running the sens from beyond the grave.

 

[Big Muddy]

*signing Tarasenko was the unforced error

That's one of the most recent ones. There are others, many of which are older.

 

[KingAlfie11]

Yeah the Matt Murray signing was a mistake, I like PD but man he need to take some courses on how to manage the cap. I like the Tarasenko signing and the Tkachuk, Stutzle, Sanderson extensions those are all good. But right now we're in cap hell, next year it will be a different story.

Just LTIR him and sign Pinto. Jesus Christ the lack of transparency with this god damn organization is making me think that Melnyk is still running the sens from beyond the grave.

Yes Yes and Yes

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Here I was worried that our 2 and/or 3 C’s would get injured in the course of playing preseason games. This is some serious 3D chess.

 

[swiftwin]

Just LTIR him and sign Pinto. Jesus Christ the lack of transparency with this god damn organization is making me think that Melnyk is still running the sens from beyond the grave.

Why should we LTIR him when he's going to be ready to start the season?

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Why should we LTIR him when he's going to be ready to start the season?

Why isn't he playing tomorrow? Last week everyone said he was going to be ready to get into the last 2 pre-season games...

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Why isn't he playing tomorrow? Last week everyone said he was going to be ready to get into the last 2 pre-season games...

I promise no more setbacks.

 

[Silencio]

 

[SquidNasty]

The contract was fine.

You always sign these young players to those contracts, so long as you get them without it being front-loaded and without signing bonuses. The buyout formula is extremely generous before the age of 26. These contracts end up working out more often than they don't.

A bridge deal would have been in the 5M-6M x 2-3 year range. With the benefit of hindsight, that would be preferable. At the time, 8x8 looked a lot smarter when you consider cap inflation. Soon, 8M will be 2nd line money.

If Norris is not hurt next year, but the Senators are concerned about his effectiveness, a buyout pretty much erases his cap hit completely for the next four seasons. The average cap hit over the first four years of his buyout would be 84k. After that, it's pretty much 1.5M a season. Keep in mind the actual money on the buyout doesn't kick in until 5 seasons from now so we're probably looking at 100-120 million as the cap ceiling if the world doesn't end.

I'm no doctor, but I'd guess if he goes back for another shoulder surgery his career is done, but who knows. That could mean he will be shut down for another year and he will have missed almost 2.5 seasons of hockey.

Hard disagree here. At the time there was a ton of posters here advocating for a bridge deal as his goal scoring wasn't necessarily sustainable. I was not at all a fan of the contract at the time and I'm sure there's older comments on this account voicing that opinion.

 

[KingAlfie11]

Why should we LTIR him when he's going to be ready to start the season?

Swift what makes you believe that Norris will be ready for next week? Hasn't played one preseason game? I hope you're right but I have some serious doubts

 

[Senator Stanley]

Yeah the Matt Murray signing was a mistake, I like PD but man he need to take some courses on how to manage the cap. I like the Tarasenko signing and the Tkachuk, Stutzle, Sanderson extensions those are all good. But right now we're in cap hell, next year it will be a different story.


Yes Yes and Yes

I like my doctor, but man he needs to go to medical school.

 

[KingAlfie11]

Hard disagree here. At the time there was a ton of posters here advocating for a bridge deal as his goal scoring wasn't necessarily sustainable. I was not at all a fan of the contract at the time and I'm sure there's older comments on this account voicing that opinion.

Yes of course fans have different opinions half think its good the other half thinks its bad, that's every fan base