Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3

[GCK]

Just fine? Or 50G PP one timer fine?

His shoulder will be fine.

 

[StoicSensFan]

His shoulder will be fine.

 

[bert]

His shoulder will be fine.

Probably not if we're going to entertain reality. He will always deal with pain and weakness. If he can't play with confidence in taking contact he should likely retire.

 

[JD1]

Probably not if we're going to entertain reality. He will always deal with pain and weakness. If he can't play with confidence in taking contact he should likely retire.

Well that surgeon spoke very confidently about it.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Norris will be fine now.

Do you know the Michael Jordan of Shoulder surgeries personally ?

 

[Cosmix]

He has now missed something like half of the possible games over the last 3 seasons and had multiple shoulder issues dating back to College hockey.

I think it's best to assume he will either be LTIRetired or not the star he looked like previously when he paced for 40+ goals, and be pleasantly surprised if he mounts an amazing comeback.

Hoping for the "cure" is highly optimistic so I tend to agree that he will most likely not be the same as before, not as productive and avoiding hits. Instead of an $8M player, we will likely have a $4M player at best, part of the time.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Even if Norris' shoulder is 100% physically, what do all these surgeries and setbacks do to his mental game? Will he even have confidence in his shoulders or will he avoid contact? Sens did the right thing finding a much better surgeon for him, but they also need to go the extra step and get him a sports psychologist or counselor, as well. Make sure the mental side of thing is taken care of, as well.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Probably not if we're going to entertain reality. He will always deal with pain and weakness. If he can't play with confidence in taking contact he should likely retire.

Again its good to be optimistic, but Norris really took a long time before he really started to engage and he was only just starting when he reinjured the shoulder. We can only speculate on why that was (pain, discomfort, confidence) but .. Its hard to have solid faith in him rebounding to his top form. Sens have invested in him they'll want him to be a top 6 contributor and they will want him to compete hard. We don't have room for soft perimeter players making 8m per.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Retire? Lol. He’s not retiring.

The team should take a wait and see approach with him post surgery and provide him all the support he needs to get back to form.

It really is not only that simple, but the right thing to do.

 

[bert]

Well that surgeon spoke very confidently about it.

I have a contact that is directly connected to a team dr. The reality is that he will never been 100 percent and there will always be pain the amount of scar tissue isnt removable. Its about Norris adjusting to the injury and playing with it. Its possible but to think he will ever be the same as he was is wishful thinking. 3 shoulder surgeries before 25 is an insane amount of horrid injuries. That effect the entire body. Strength of surrounding muscles, his back over compensating etc. Thats not even taking into account the mental toll.

Not to say that its impossible for him to play again, he can. But he needs to be very resilient and not rush it like he did under the previous regime. The amount of blunders Dorion and co have is honestly hard to comprehend. So many decisions made to try and save his job and not for the betterment of the organization, players and fanbase.

Again its good to be optimistic, but Norris really took a long time before he really started to engage and he was only just starting when he reinjured the shoulder. We can only speculate on why that was (pain, discomfort, confidence) but .. Its hard to have solid faith in him rebounding to his top form. Sens have invested in him they'll want him to be a top 6 contributor and they will want him to compete hard. We don't have room for soft perimeter players making 8m per.

I agree that its good to be optimistic and there is reason for that, but being realistic about it is the only way to approach the situation if they want to be able to react to it and be proactive.