Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin Part 2

[dinodebino]

continue... Player Discussion - Jonathan Drouin - Redemption Now

I think Drouin - Caufield could do pretty well offensively together.
Caufield likes going to open spaces, and Drouin is good at passing and finding open players.

It won't happen. Joe is as good as gone.

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[Kojo]

It won't happen. Joe is as good as gone.

Do you have inside info? How are they going to dispose of his body? People just don't disappear like that.

 

[dinodebino]

Do you have inside info? How are they going to dispose of his body? People just don't disappear like that.

Inside info on the fact that Drouin isn't coming back at all this season?

 

[Kojo]

Inside info on the fact that Drouin isn't coming back at all this season?

I thought you were talking about next season. Even then, Drouin could recover in time to participate in the playoffs if we don't get swept in 4 games. Depending on how bad his injury is.

 

[Redux91]

I thought you were talking about next season. Even then, Drouin could recover in time to participate in the playoffs if we don't get swept in 4 games. Depending on how bad his injury is.

Lol you really don't get it do you

 

[morhilane]

Do you have inside info? How are they going to dispose of his body? People just don't disappear like that.

The official announcement was that Drouin took an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. He's not injured physically and he won't play in the playoffs.

Chance are he won't play again in the NHL really.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I thought you were talking about next season. Even then, Drouin could recover in time to participate in the playoffs if we don't get swept in 4 games. Depending on how bad his injury is.

Johnny Floaty isn't "injured"; he's off for Personal Reasons...

 

[1909]

The official announcement was that Drouin took an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. He's not injured physically and he won't play in the playoffs.

Chance are he won't play again in the NHL really.

He won't play for Habs for sure.

 

[Kojo]

Lol you really don't get it do you

What do I not get? I think I get it more than you do.

 

[Kojo]

Johnny Floaty isn't "injured"; he's off for Personal Reasons...

No f***ing shit.

 

[Redux91]

What do I not get? I think I get it more than you do.

LOL sure you do..
Anyways no beef bud, just thought it was pretty funny you dont quite understand what's going on with Drouin clearly, and most likely hes NOT here next year

No f***ing shit.

Then why call it an injury lol

 

[Kojo]

There was a little bit of a misunderstanding. I guess I'm a little bit protective of Drouin for some reasons. Let's just move on and keep talking about future Rocket trophy winner Cole Caufield.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

The official announcement was that Drouin took an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. He's not injured physically and he won't play in the playoffs.

Chance are he won't play again in the NHL really.

He could definitely come back at any time. Who knows. I’d be surprised if he just retired, giving up millions to play would be tough to do.

 

[26Mats]

The official announcement was that Drouin took an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. He's not injured physically and he won't play in the playoffs.

Chance are he won't play again in the NHL really.

Indefinite means the length is not determined as of now, not infinite.

I wish it were infinite. But he'll be back.

 

[CanadienShark]

The official announcement was that Drouin took an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. He's not injured physically and he won't play in the playoffs.

Chance are he won't play again in the NHL really.

Indefinite doesn't really mean anything in this case. I'd be shocked if he never played in the NHL again.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Indefinite doesn't really mean anything in this case. I'd be shocked if he never played in the NHL again.

Indeed but probably played his last game as a habs in my opinion. This market is not for him.

 

[CanadienShark]

Indeed but probably played his last game as a habs in my opinion. This market is not for him.

Yeah that's fair. Who knows what's going on, but clearly his time in Montreal hasn't gone as planned. Probably best for all parties to move on.

 

[morhilane]

Indefinite means the length is not determined as of now, not infinite.

I wish it were infinite. But he'll be back.

Usually when indefinite is used, it means "for a very long time, be we don't know how long".

And the Habs already said he wasn't going to come back for the playoffs, so the indefinite has a minimum time frame, they just don't know the maximum part.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The official announcement was that Drouin took an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. He's not injured physically and he won't play in the playoffs.

Chance are he won't play again in the NHL really.

Not play again in the NHL? I highly doubt that.

Not play again in Montreal? That I think is likely.

 

[TheHabs BruinRipper]

Drouin makes 67K a game...more than most individuals make in a year.
Stress? Pressure ? give me a break.
Most people stress with their mortgages, bills, finances, have stress within their work environments...
Drouin? He is playing hockey FFS. He is a multi-millionaire. He is gifted, talented, but no desire or heart.

I have no sympathy for Drouin, none.
He abandoned his teammates during a crucial drive to make the playoffs. Unforgivable.
Most players on this team have played with injuries, still do. Remember Gainey playing with two separated shoulders in the playoffs giving body checks... I do.
Trade him and lets move on.

 

[26Mats]

Usually when indefinite is used, it means "for a very long time, be we don't know how long".

And the Habs already said he wasn't going to come back for the playoffs, so the indefinite has a minimum time frame, they just don't know the maximum part.

It could be a substance abuse problem. It could be anything.

But, I hadn't heard he wasn't coming back for the playoffs, good to know. Do you have a link confirming this?

 

[A55P2]

Drouin makes 67K a game...more than most individuals make in a year.
Stress? Pressure ? give me a break.
Most people stress with their mortgages, bills, finances, have stress within their work environments...
Drouin? He is playing hockey FFS. He is a multi-millionaire. He is gifted, talented, but no desire or heart.

I have no sympathy for Drouin, none.
He abandoned his teammates during a crucial drive to make the playoffs. Unforgivable.
Most players on this team have played with injuries, still do. Remember Gainey playing with two separated shoulders in the playoffs giving body checks... I do.
Drouin is dead to me. Trade him and lets move on.

 

[cphabs]

Drouin makes 67K a game...more than most individuals make in a year.
Stress? Pressure ? give me a break.
Most people stress with their mortgages, bills, finances, have stress within their work environments...
Drouin? He is playing hockey FFS. He is a multi-millionaire. He is gifted, talented, but no desire or heart.

I have no sympathy for Drouin, none.
He abandoned his teammates during a crucial drive to make the playoffs. Unforgivable.
Most players on this team have played with injuries, still do. Remember Gainey playing with two separated shoulders in the playoffs giving body checks... I do.
Drouin is dead to me. Trade him and lets move on.

This team has been in a self induced funk for decades.

 

[dcyhabs]

Drouin makes 67K a game...more than most individuals make in a year.
Stress? Pressure ? give me a break.
Most people stress with their mortgages, bills, finances, have stress within their work environments...
Drouin? He is playing hockey FFS. He is a multi-millionaire. He is gifted, talented, but no desire or heart.

I have no sympathy for Drouin, none.
He abandoned his teammates during a crucial drive to make the playoffs. Unforgivable.
Most players on this team have played with injuries, still do. Remember Gainey playing with two separated shoulders in the playoffs giving body checks... I do.
Drouin is dead to me. Trade him and lets move on.

I think this post evokes a lot that is wrong with the NHL:
-players are well paid so they don't deserve rights, choice, sympathy
-players should put the game and the playoffs ahead of long term personal health and family
-previous guys did crazy stuff so today's players should too, even if they know better
-it's OK to bash players publicly on social media or if you run into them

Players are highly paid but many/most destroy their physical and mental health. A majority blow the money fast and end up in bad shape. GMs, coaches, and media choose to go into a public role, though some are certainly surprised at how public it can be, Julien had a heart attack, Ducharme looks like he might, soon. It's not an easy role and even the worst players are among the thousand or so best players there are. I'm not top thousand in the world at anything, and I doubt many posters here are, either. Getting to that level is not easy. Dumping on guys who got there for not doing enough is not very perceptive.

Probably the worst part of hockey is the "code." It's OK to intentionally injure players and target injured players to the extent that teams no longer announce injuries. It's OK to do pretty much anything that does not get in the way of big fighting guys with non-hockey physiques beating up the people more focused on playing. I'm still waiting for basketball to bring in a bunch of tall boxers who can mostly keep up so that they can injure opposing stars and fight with similar players. Unfortunately the code extends to the refs and the "DOPS" so there really is no player safety. Most players end up with multiple concussions and painkiller addictions. The fighting guys end up the same but with damaged hands.

You think you have a stressful job? Many people consider public speaking more stressful than pretty much anything else. Players have to play in front of huge crowds and face the media after. It's easy after a win, but being grilled after a loss, where players bled on the ice and where, at least with this team, you can see the team doesn't understand why they have good days and bad days, it's pretty horrible. The players need to develop confidence in themselves and in a system that they clearly don't completely understand, all while being told that they are bad, lazy people.

It's completely OK to bash owners. They did little to get where they are, they have the money and power to have some control over their media presence, and they are rarely concussed. My job is stressful but unlike players I rarely have my boss or clients yelling at me that I'm lazy about a job that I'm clearly good at and I'm not risking serious injuries and concussions daily. I have all my teeth. Cut the players some slack even if they are getting paid now. You think NHLers are paid too much? Unionize like they are and demand the money you are owed, just like everyone else players got peanuts without a union and now that they have a union others whine it's not fair what they get paid instead of imitating them, and getting a reasonable share.

 

[TheHabs BruinRipper]

I think this post evokes a lot that is wrong with the NHL:
-players are well paid so they don't deserve rights, choice, sympathy
-players should put the game and the playoffs ahead of long term personal health and family
-previous guys did crazy stuff so today's players should too, even if they know better
-it's OK to bash players publicly on social media or if you run into them

Players are highly paid but many/most destroy their physical and mental health. A majority blow the money fast and end up in bad shape. GMs, coaches, and media choose to go into a public role, though some are certainly surprised at how public it can be, Julien had a heart attack, Ducharme looks like he might, soon. It's not an easy role and even the worst players are among the thousand or so best players there are. I'm not top thousand in the world at anything, and I doubt many posters here are, either. Getting to that level is not easy. Dumping on guys who got there for not doing enough is not very perceptive.

Probably the worst part of hockey is the "code." It's OK to intentionally injure players and target injured players to the extent that teams no longer announce injuries. It's OK to do pretty much anything that does not get in the way of big fighting guys with non-hockey physiques beating up the people more focused on playing. I'm still waiting for basketball to bring in a bunch of tall boxers who can mostly keep up so that they can injure opposing stars and fight with similar players. Unfortunately the code extends to the refs and the "DOPS" so there really is no player safety. Most players end up with multiple concussions and painkiller addictions. The fighting guys end up the same but with damaged hands.

You think you have a stressful job? Many people consider public speaking more stressful than pretty much anything else. Players have to play in front of huge crowds and face the media after. It's easy after a win, but being grilled after a loss, where players bled on the ice and where, at least with this team, you can see the team doesn't understand why they have good days and bad days, it's pretty horrible. The players need to develop confidence in themselves and in a system that they clearly don't completely understand, all while being told that they are bad, lazy people.

It's completely OK to bash owners. They did little to get where they are, they have the money and power to have some control over their media presence, and they are rarely concussed. My job is stressful but unlike players I rarely have my boss or clients yelling at me that I'm lazy about a job that I'm clearly good at and I'm not risking serious injuries and concussions daily. I have all my teeth. Cut the players some slack even if they are getting paid now. You think NHLers are paid too much? Unionize like they are and demand the money you are owed, just like everyone else players got peanuts without a union and now that they have a union others whine it's not fair what they get paid instead of imitating them, and getting a reasonable share.

Agree with your post. The league has to get its act together and the awful Panarin incident and Parros desision makes your point. I personally am against players playing injured - i did not like Gainey playing with two separated shoulders and would rather put a healthy body playing defense than an injured Weber.

JD has 2 goals in 44 games. Cole Caufield has 3 goals in a few games, with nowhere the ice time of the former. To criticize him is fair play, he is talented and gifted, easily a 50-70 pts guy a year. If Drouin is injured, if his wrist is bothering him etc..he should not play and take the time to heal. I wish him well. He is still one of the best passers on the team. This team needs a healthy JD.

Owners have dropped the ball for years and have been heavily criticized. Under performing athletes are also open to criticism and scrutiny.