John Klingberg vs John Carlson

[Grabner]

Battle of the John's

Two great RHD with similar statistics since Klingberg's entry in the show.

Klingberg
225 pts in 314 games (0.7165 pt/game)

Carlson (since 2014-2015)
213 pts in 302 games (0.7053 pt/game)

Who's better?

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[Filthy Dangles]

I already did this a couple months ago and Kling won

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/john-klingberg-vs-john-carlson.2538169/

 

[Grabner]

I already did this a couple months ago and Kling won

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/john-klingberg-vs-john-carlson.2538169/

Nice, I feel they're really in the same tier, we'll see if people's opinion changed in the span of 2 months lol
I am a bit biased I have Klingberg in my pool but either are great

 

[VoluntaryDom]

To me Carlson is a top 20 dman and Klingberg is top 10. Two very good players but I prefer Klingberg.

 

[Devil Dancer]

Klingberg's play in his own zone is pretty awful. He may have an offensive edge, but Carlson is the better player overall by a fair margin.

 

[LT]

Klingberg's play in his own zone is pretty awful. He may have an offensive edge, but Carlson is the better player overall by a fair margin.

Based on what?

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Both are pretty bad in their own zone. And produce about the same offence.

 

[koyvoo]

Both are pretty bad in their own zone. And produce about the same offence.

This

 

[Carlzner]

Both are pretty bad in their own zone. And produce about the same offence.

Carlson isn’t bad in his own zone though?

 

[LT]

Neither is Klingberg. I wouldn’t call either a defensive stalwart, but to say they’re bad defensively is ignorant.

 

[Machinehead]

Klingberg is way better defensively lol

 

[triggrman]

Klingberg is way better defensively lol

Neither are good enough defensively to be "way better"

 

[Carlzner]

Klingberg is way better defensively lol

I’m surprised it took you so long to post in here bro

 

[Carlzner]

Neither are good enough defensively to be "way better"

Carlson has always been borderline elite in his defensive zone and he’s been even better over the past calendar year or so. Elite positioning, great poke check, physical, blocks shots, great at getting it out of the zone/outlet passes.

But uh, corsi or something, bro

 

[CheeseMcCheese]

Neither are good enough defensively to be "way better"

I agree and I really love Klingberg's skating ability

 

[Machinehead]

I’m surprised it took you so long to post in here bro

I have to inform the people, it's my duty.

 

[Kcb12345]

Carlson has always been borderline elite in his defensive zone and he’s been even better over the past calendar year or so. Elite positioning, great poke check, physical, blocks shots, great at getting it out of the zone/outlet passes.

But uh, corsi or something, bro

This is the first I'm hearing that he was good defensively last regular season. Even from Caps fans

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Klingberg is way better defensively lol

Is he? My reputation based, small sample size viewings don't give me much faith in his defensive ability. Possibly influenced by the Dallas offense system of the past with not much goaltending.

 

[Machinehead]

Is he? My reputation based, small sample size viewings don't give me much faith in his defensive ability. Possibly influenced by the Dallas offense system of the past with not much goaltending.

His defensive impacts are pretty meh, but I struggle to think of a minute eating defenseman with worse impact than Carlson. Except maybe Neal Stionk.

 

[WhatWhat]

Klingberg's play in his own zone is pretty awful. He may have an offensive edge, but Carlson is the better player overall by a fair margin.

Man this narrative is ridiculous. Klingberg isnt bad defensively... being a point producing monster on the backend does not make you bad defensively.

 

[Carlzner]

This is the first I'm hearing that he was good defensively last regular season. Even from Caps fans

That’s fine. Go look up some quotes from ex-NHLer analysts on his underrated defensive play.

 

[Carlzner]

His defensive impacts are pretty meh, but I struggle to think of a minute eating defenseman with worse impact than Carlson. Except maybe Neal Stionk.

This is so true man. A miracle they won Lord Stanley with him.

 

[triggrman]

Carlson has always been borderline elite in his defensive zone and he’s been even better over the past calendar year or so. Elite positioning, great poke check, physical, blocks shots, great at getting it out of the zone/outlet passes.

But uh, corsi or something, bro

You think I base my opinion on Corsi?

 

[Devil Dancer]

Man this narrative is ridiculous. Klingberg isnt bad defensively... being a point producing monster on the backend does not make you bad defensively.

My opinion isn't based on Klingberg's strong offensive stats, it's based in my personal observation of his defensive play, which has been poor.

I don't watch a ton of Stars games though, so it is possible I have only seen his bad games.

 

[Spotty 2 Hotty]

It's not that Klingberg is that bad defensively, he's just more easily knocked off the puck than other defenseman and often tries to be too fancy, leading to turnovers. I can't really speak for Carlson since I don't watch the Caps much.