Value of: Joel Edmundson's next contract

[BringTheReign]

Canes and Blues fans,

It seems likely that Carolina won't be re-signing Edmundson this offseason. In yours and Blues' fans opinions, what would he be worth/asking for on a 3-5 year contract?

From a Kings perspective, we need a young-ish, veteran defenseman who can insulate our young up-and-comers and eventually be a contributing #3-5 guy with Cup experience when we return to the playoffs. From my view, he's got size, he's a low-mistake puck mover who skates well, he plays LD which we need, and he's young enough to grow with our youth movement.

In our '12/'14 runs, guys like Scuderi, Greene, Mitchell, and Regehr were important pieces on and off the ice, and it seems from the outside looking in that Edmundson could grow into a similar role. I'm not sure he'd want to come to a rebuilding team, but given that he's already won a Cup, the Kings have a promising young group of prospects, we could offer term, and he could live in the South Bay, I could see it.

We were guessing over on the Kings board that he'd want something along the lines of these deals:

• 3 yrs @ 4.75M
• 4 yrs @ 4.5M
• 5 yrs @ 4.25M

Are we far off? Is that too much for what Edmundson could bring? Fire away!

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[BleedBlue14]

Love what Eddy brings. But paying anything over 2.5 AAV would be a mistake in my opinion. He’s shown some flashes of being very very good throughout his career. But I think the fact of the matter is the flashes were anomalies and he’s more of a bottom pair guy who will bring grit.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Think his ceiling is like Ben chiarot contract wise. 3 years right at or above $10 million.

 

[rubikscube]

I could see the Jets overpaying for him. He's a Manitoba kid too which helps.

He would fill a hole and we're desperate. Hot take: Chevy offers him 4×5.0 an offer he can't turn down

 

[BringTheReign]

Love what Eddy brings. But paying anything over 2.5 AAV would be a mistake in my opinion. He’s shown some flashes of being very very good throughout his career. But I think the fact of the matter is the flashes were anomalies and he’s more of a bottom pair guy who will bring grit.

Gotcha, thanks for the input. I saw his current salary at 3M, and figured he'd be asking for a significant raise given that it seems that he was pushed out of both bluelines by $$$.

Ideally, he'd be a #3-4 for the next 2 years while we bring up the kids, but then transition to a #5-6 veteran role as they mature and the team starts to (hopefully) compete again.

It sounds like he would be a good fit for our blueline, but might not have as high of ceiling as I thought. That's okay on our end, as long as it's reflected in his cap hit. It would be fantastic if like another poster mentioned we could sign him for something like Chiarot's deal.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Love what Eddy brings. But paying anything over 2.5 AAV would be a mistake in my opinion. He’s shown some flashes of being very very good throughout his career. But I think the fact of the matter is the flashes were anomalies and he’s more of a bottom pair guy who will bring grit.

I agree with you but I would say $3.0 is probably the max. He’s a heart and soul guy that can play up on a higher pairing but he doesn’t have the consistency to play above bottom pairing. If he’s your 5-6 then it’s fine.

He plays physical, jumps in the rush from time to time is solid but unspectacular defensively. He has tools but his IQ and ability to read plays/decision making is just a bit too slow to be a key piece.

 

[themelkman]

Dillon is better and probs only gets 4 mil

 

[Ollie Weeks]

I’ve been interested in Edmunson as a Kings fan for a few months now. Would be a good depth piece for a young inexperienced blueline.

 

[Em etah Eh]

Gotcha, thanks for the input. I saw his current salary at 3M, and figured he'd be asking for a significant raise given that it seems that he was pushed out of both bluelines by $$$.

Ideally, he'd be a #3-4 for the next 2 years while we bring up the kids, but then transition to a #5-6 veteran role as they mature and the team starts to (hopefully) compete again.

It sounds like he would be a good fit for our blueline, but might not have as high of ceiling as I thought. That's okay on our end, as long as it's reflected in his cap hit. It would be fantastic if like another poster mentioned we could sign him for something like Chiarot's deal.

I’m guessing his average will be at least 4M with UFA inflation. There’s always one dumb GM that has to have the player. I think Eddy will be a fine pickup for whoever gets him, but he’ll get too much like they all do in UFA.

 

[BringTheReign]

I’m guessing his average will be at least 4M with UFA inflation. There’s always one dumb GM that has to have the player. I think Eddy will be a fine pickup for whoever gets him, but he’ll get too much like they all do in UFA.

Yep, definitely could see us giving 4M (depending on what the cap does with COVID19, anyhow). It wouldn't be the end of the world given the fact that we'll have a high number of ELCs on our books the next few seasons, as long as the term wasn't more than ~4 years.

Given that everyone here seems to like what he brings even if it's not at as high of a level as we'd hoped, I'm definitely hoping Blake gives his agent a call.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Edmundson is the exact type of defender the Rangers need. If the price is reasonable, I can see them being involved.

 

[untouchable21]

Would be a good veteran for the Jets to target after locking up Demelo of course.

 

[simon IC]

We will take him back and trade Faulk!

 

[Vitto79]

Rangers may make some sense ..would be exposed in expansion though

 

[BringTheReign]

Edmundson is the exact type of defender the Rangers need. If the price is reasonable, I can see them being involved.

I'm not as familiar with the Rangers back-end situation, but given the loss of Skjei and the up-and-coming puck-movers, that makes sense. Would you be able to sign him given Fox and Deangelo's next contracts?

 

[MissouriMook]

Anything over $3M is a waste of money and cap space. He is at best a #4 even on a poor team. If you're counting on him as a 2/3 guy, your team has a lot of problems on D and you better be prepared to spend more money on better players (and not waste it on him long-term) if you want to get better.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I'm not as familiar with the Rangers back-end situation, but given the loss of Skjei and the up-and-coming puck-movers, that makes sense. Would you be able to sign him given Fox and Deangelo's next contracts?

If there’s a compliance buyout, absolutely. Especially if Lundqvist decides to retire, then that compliance buyout can be used on Staal and that clears up almost $15 million in space.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

We will take him back and trade Faulk!

50% retention, you got it

 

[CanadianHawks]

4x4. Think he ends up in Buffalo or Winnipeg

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I'd give him 2x4.5 or 3x4.

We have the cap to burn, and our blueline desperately needs a physical element. He'd be a stopgap by design, but hopefully he views the extra dollars as adequate compensation for accepting shorter term.