Kudo Shinichi
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I expect him to sign for 1.1
Lehkonen 2.3 + KK 1.1 = Byron on LTIR 3.4
KK is getting 2M+.
I expect him to sign for 1.1
Lehkonen 2.3 + KK 1.1 = Byron on LTIR 3.4
What would folks offer KK on a deal for each of the following terms, that has a decent chance of KK accepting?I'm sure Buffalo will pay him what he's worth
KK is getting 2M+.
What would folks offer KK on a deal for each of the following terms, that has a decent chance of KK accepting?
Here is my list:
1 year - $1,000,000 (not much choice for him)
2 years - $1,500,000 AAV 1 + 2
3 years - $2,000,000 AAV 1 + 2 + 3
4 years - $2,500,000 AAV 1 + 2 + 3 + 4
5 years - $3,000,000 AAV 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5
6 years - $3,333,333 AAV 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 5
7 years - $3,571,429 AAV 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 5 + 5
8 years - $3,750,000 AAV 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5
If I were KK and wanted to bet on myself, I would be ok with a 5 or 6 year contract along these lines (with the UFA years at $5M salary) and even make the first two years 2-way, with say $750k in the AHL
I have maintained from day 1 that KK will be a 40-50 point player if everything goes well, with a possibility of a couple years of 50+ points (his peak). After a couple years of seeing him, it has only become more apparent that his ceiling is somewhere in that range. He will never be a 1C; he has no elite attributes or potential. That is extremely obvious at this point. He is what he is, and he was our team's pick at 3rd overall. I've made peace with that. He can still be a useful player. Unfortunately, I think he gets dealt this summer.
Yes I have a crystal ball, yes I have the winning lottery numbers. No you can't have them.
Yeah, basically Danault without the elite defensive game, and more of a goal-scorer, but similar point totals.lol. This whole 'if everything goes well' stuff. No it would be if everything goes completely sideways and worse.
Do you understand who you're describing stats wise? Phil Danault.
Now am I saying he'll be 60-70 pts guy for sure? No. Am I even a bit worried he could bottom out as a 3rd line C? Sure. A little bit.
But for people to honestly think this kid has never had at any point the potential to put up more points than fricking Danault or that potential is never existed then you really just have to get real.
I just don't know why people want to be so certain about this kid who just turned 21 last month and also think that that's somehow some disingenuous excuse. Scheifele put up pretty much the same points in his D+3 that KK did in D+1. He didn't even crack 50 in his D+4. I've already made the Pacioretty and Eller comparables at the same age. Why is it so do or die with KK in his 21 year old season? It's just weird.
Only if it's a 3-year contract or longer.KK is getting 2M+.
10 lbs is a lot if you are talking a healthy 10 pounds. 35 lbs of muscle in one summer sounds like BS to me, no offense, that is very difficult to do.
Now if we only had drafted Hughes. Pity.Yeah, basically Danault without the elite defensive game, and more of a goal-scorer, but similar point totals.
It's do or die for KK because of his lack of progress since his rookie year - there hasn't been any. He makes the same mistakes, and hasn't addressed any of his weaknesses.
The assessment on his potential is based on what we've seen in 3 years. He doesn't have any elite tools. He has an average shot, he isn't much of a playmaker, his hockey sense looks average at best at both ends of the ice, he's a relatively poor skater. Honestly, what are you seeing that looks elite to you? I guess he could maybe get really strong and play a physical game and develop his faceoff skill along with his defensive game if he really focused on that stuff and worked hard, but what do you think the chances of that are? He just doesn't have the tools to ever be a 1C, imo.
Markov?Habs have never drafted and developed a real star in nearly 30 years , blaming Timmins is short-sighted.
Markov?
Subban?
Price?
Pacioretty?
Now if we only had drafted Hughes. Pity.
Yeah, basically Danault without the elite defensive game, and more of a goal-scorer, but similar point totals.
It's do or die for KK because of his lack of progress since his rookie year - there hasn't been any. He makes the same mistakes, and hasn't addressed any of his weaknesses.
The assessment on his potential is based on what we've seen in 3 years. He doesn't have any elite tools. He has an average shot, he isn't much of a playmaker, his hockey sense looks average at best at both ends of the ice, he's a relatively poor skater. Honestly, what are you seeing that looks elite to you? I guess he could maybe get really strong and play a physical game and develop his faceoff skill along with his defensive game if he really focused on that stuff and worked hard, but what do you think the chances of that are? He just doesn't have the tools to ever be a 1C, imo.
or Tkatchuk...
If he play like his rookie season... we gonna have a pretty good C next year in KK.
No he's not. If you mean a defensive C, this is not the profile he was drafted for. He plays and he is supposely a #2 C. I don't see him as a shut down C, actually he is weak on his skates, he doesn't skate fast and he doesn't play more than 18 minutes a game.4M/6 years... Nothing to lose. He's already an adequate #3C.
4M/6 years... Nothing to lose. He's already an adequate #3C.