Player Discussion Jeff Gorton

[QJL]

Good to hear on Buchnevich. He should be playing 18 minutes a night alongside Ziba, Hayes, or surprise Calder candidate Filip Chytil.

 

[Steve Kournianos]

HF has the best deal makers in the world sitting in their boxers on their couch.

You don't need to be in hockey to get the better end of a deal. Win some, lose some. I think paying customers have every right to criticize a GM if
they perceive he's getting toyed with during trades.

Gorton deserves credit for not being Sather, but he has yet to hit that home run. He's moved a lot of pieces since taking over. He's made more boneheaded moves than robberies. Staal and Smith come to mind. The rest are kind of just there.

I dont want the guy fired, but what I would like to see is one of his recent trades eventually become his own Gomez-McDonagh.

 

[Irishguy42]

You don't need to be in hockey to get the better end of a deal. Win some, lose some. I think paying customers have every right to criticize a GM if
they perceive he's getting toyed with during trades.

Gorton deserves credit for not being Sather, but he has yet to hit that home run. He's moved a lot of pieces since taking over. He's made more boneheaded moves than robberies. Staal and Smith come to mind. The rest are kind of just there.

I dont want the guy fired, but what I would like to see is one of his recent trades eventually become his own Gomez-McDonagh.

Zibanejad trade could potentially be that.

 

[Levitate]

The problem I have with armchair GM trades is that everyone expects that the players or picks they put forth have this expected value that the other trade partner would agree to. I think there are many many many many trades that go down and people say "wtf the GM should have gone for this or that instead" but a trade would have never happened if that was what was insisted on.

Basically, hfboards trades stand a far smaller chance of going down that what happens in reality IMO.

 

[bobbop]

Trades are a lot tougher to make than most fans realize. The biggest risk you have is that the guy you are trading with (should) knows his players better than you do. Why are they willing to move so and so? What was the last negotiation like? How is he in the room? Can he play in the middle or is he just another left wing?

Go back and look at how many times both teams are disappointed in a trade. That’s because teams try to sell when perception is higher than presence. Sometimes, the player turns around and flourishes but quite often a trade doesn’t help either team.

The one big wild card is when teams veterans for draft choices. Of course, that’s why so few premium draft choices ever change hands.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Gorton deserves credit for not being Sather, but he has yet to hit that home run. He's moved a lot of pieces since taking over. He's made more boneheaded moves than robberies. Staal and Smith come to mind. The rest are kind of just there.

I thought Sather signed Staal to that extension.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I thought Sather signed Staal to that extension.

Gorton took over from Sather on July 1st, 2015.

Staal signed his extension on January 18, 2015.

 

[hi]

I thought Sather signed Staal to that extension.

He's talking about the Eric Staal trade

 

[haohmaru]

He's talking about the Eric Staal trade

While Gorton facilitated that, I lay the blame for that squarely at the shoes of AV who had no idea what to do with him for whatever reason. That's where AV should've been shown the door.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

He's talking about the Eric Staal trade

Ahhh...forgot about that.....Thanks much.