Blue Jays Discussion: Jays in the playoffs! for reals! | Playoff Avatars: Posts 1-4 | ALDS: 2-0 Texas

[Throw More Waffles]

ERA is an okay stat but doesn't tell the whole picture, that's for sure. Regardless, Price hasn't been great over his career in the playoffs, albeit in a small sample size.

If wins, losses, and ERA doesn't "tell the whole picture" about pitching, then what does?

 

[The Man in White]

If wins, losses, and ERA doesn't "tell the whole picture" about pitching, then what does?

Pretty much every other pitching stat...

 

[Throw More Waffles]

It's been over 22 years since the Jays made the playoffs, and I haven't been able to watch a single game due to the ridiculous schedule.

I didn't get home from work till the 1st game was over, and caught the 14th of the 2nd. So the only post season jays I've seen in 22 years is that disaster of an inning.

Tonight I (like everybody) have thanksgiving plans. And the place we're going doesn't have cable.

I give up.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Pretty much every other pitching stat...

Being 0-7 with a high ERA says everything you need to know....

But with that being said, I say play him game 5 if we get there. He's too good to not eventually turn it around.

 

[King Mapes]

It's been over 22 years since the Jays made the playoffs, and I haven't been able to watch a single game due to the ridiculous schedule.

I didn't get home from work till the 1st game was over, and caught the 14th of the 2nd. So the only post season jays I've seen in 22 years is that disaster of an inning.

Tonight I (like everybody) have thanksgiving plans. And the place we're going doesn't have cable.

I give up.

PVR is your friend

 

[Swervin81]

Being 0-7 with a high ERA says everything you need to know....

But with that being said, I say play him game 5 if we get there. He's too good to not eventually turn it around.

W-L tells you absolutely nothing (see: Hutchison, Drew). The high ERA... yeah, that tells you quite a bit in this case since it's right in line with Price's playoff peripherals, but win loss is even more meaningless than RBI.

 

[Dough72]

Why would they be given better info in the postseason than in the regular season?

just guessing since they face a different pitcher every game in the regular season they don't cram as much info into players, and the preparation isn't nearly as specific

for the playoffs they are probably getting as in-depth as possible, watching film on estrada over and over, having Estrada team meatings, etc. I don't know what they actually do for baseball but I would think it's a lot more in depth for the playoffs. Could be completely wrong.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

PVR is your friend

I tried that the 1st game, but it was impossible to avoid scores all day. It's all everybody is talking about.

 

[Eyedea]

Kershaw is 1-6 with a 4.99 ERA in the postseason but he is still the best pitcher in baseball. He's the guy you want to give it to when it's on the line. And that's the same for Price in this situation (if the Jays make it to g4).

 

[Puckstuff]

Kershaw is 1-6 with a 4.99 ERA in the postseason but he is still the best pitcher in baseball. He's the guy you want to give it to when it's on the line. And that's the same for Price in this situation (if the Jays make it to g4).

Actually when the games on the line I would much rather give it to Bumgarner or Arrietta.

 

[Eyedea]

W-L tells you absolutely nothing (see: Hutchison, Drew). The high ERA... yeah, that tells you quite a bit in this case since it's right in line with Price's playoff peripherals, but win loss is even more meaningless than RBI.

The ERA absolutely does not match with his 3.21 SIERA in the postseason. 1.72 HR/9, 16.1% HR/FB, 69% LOB rate.

Actually when the games on the line I would much rather give it to Bumgarner or Arrietta.

Bumgarner was historically dominant in the postseason last year. Arrieta has been historically dominant over the 2nd half of this season. Kershaw has been historically dominant since his sophomore season and his postseason record to date doesn't excuse it.

 

[Swervin81]

Actually when the games on the line I would much rather give it to Bumgarner or Arrietta.

Well, the Dodgers don't have that option, and neither do we. And even if they did, I'm sure a tiny sample size relative to his entire career will influence things a lot.