What if we drop Kelly to the 4th line,sit Thornton.A line of Soderberg, Jagr and Smith might be effective.
One comment from a poster on HF boards tranlates into reading "many times that his teammates hated playing with him"?
Due respect to DHK, but he doesn't play for the Bruins. All of us at times express frustration with a sibling, a friend, a co-worker. An expression of frustration doesn't have to mean "hate." And frankly I can understand frustration with a new co-worker who has an entirely different style, and is loathe to change it.
As for getting Jagr back at the deadline, that is months and months away. Jagr was playing great for Dallas last fall too. I have no idea how he's going to look in March, but the Bruins have been there, done that. We'll see what their needs are, and if they can fill them from within.
The whole 'Bergeron and Marchand hated Jagr' rumor has been floating around on and off for a couple of months. The fact that it gained zero real traction on the boards makes me think it's more fiction than most rumors and the typical "X is out of Boston because he stinks" Boston fan reaction to someone leaving.
I've thought Marchand picked up a few of Jagr's moves and the rumors where up till September than Jagr was well liked in the locker room and changed his game for the team....
But yeah, he wasn't a good fit.
Even if the rumors are true, Marchand and Bergeron will be lucky if they can combine for 1/5th of Jagr's career. Jagr is back to his usual self racking up nearly a ppg at 42 while Marchand and Bergeron are still underachieving. It's always easier to blame the Euro, especially after he's gone.
For example DKH wrote in Jarome Iginla thread:
Jagr never bought in and Marchand and Bergeron hated playing with him (fact not opinion)
I waited for more but it didn´t come. I was glad to read it because it confirmed my feeling about Marchand which I defended to believe. I had nothing against him till playoff and I still have nothing against Bergeron because I don´t know the whole true and he played his best IMO.
I cannot criticize the whole play of Marchand. He made some huge decisive passes to Bergeron and goals exspecially against the Pens. It is not about that he was bad player.
Maybe he was angry, that Jagr compared Bergeron with Francis.
Maybe we can get Ryder and Jagr back! Now that would be sweet...
FYI, "fact not opinion" is a phrase used by a popular sports radio host in the Boston area. It's a phrase some of us like to use to emphasize a point we're trying to make. It's a local thing that might be lost on someone not familiar with the region.
I cannot speak for what DKH meant there (and he is among my favorite posters here so no knock on him), but as another poster said below, it never gained any traction in the local sports media. As Boston is famous for trashing it's athletes on their way out of town, the idea that I didn't see anything much at all in the regular media circles lends some credence to the idea that it was simply a rumor. That's what people do on message boards. They should not be construed as fact, especially when you're not hearing it repeated elsewhere. The idea that you said "I waited for more but it didn't come" should be indicator enough that....there really wasn't much there in the first place.
Yikes...no thanks, older and slower...this guy will pass
You can try, but it's still coming my friend
There was no fall in Dallas. I have to say, Jagr plays much better this season than last season (due to lost weight and someone can say due to Bergeron´s lessons of defence - I don´t oppose it). +9 is dream for me. Of course time shows... but I don´t worry about Jagr. Last short season was destroying for old players and finally he had no time to get used to Boston.
I never wrote any bad against Bergeron. Some generally comments about hate and that some players would be against return of Jagr + this concrete comment from DKH only CONFIRMED my feeling about Marchand in play-off. And honestly who should be it else? Paverly, Kelly and Campbell? Really? But maybe I am wrong and Marchand ignores everybody except for Bergeron.
The whole 'Bergeron and Marchand hated Jagr' rumor has been floating around on and off for a couple of months. The fact that it gained zero real traction on the boards makes me think it's more fiction than most rumors and the typical "X is out of Boston because he stinks" Boston fan reaction to someone leaving.
I've thought Marchand picked up a few of Jagr's moves and the rumors where up till September than Jagr was well liked in the locker room and changed his game for the team....
But yeah, he wasn't a good fit.
hope not, I`m sorry, loved and appreciated the contributions Rydes gave us in the Cup run...despised his MIA act during the regular season
Funny how too many here completely wipe from their minds the endless threads screaming for Chia to get rid of this guy and now......
and some here complaining about this team being too slow......neither of these two address that "issue"
NO
**** Jagr. I was excited when he came here then he didn't do **** really. Aside from his steal from Malkin what did he do?
We need more goals off skates so yes
Even if the rumors are true, Marchand and Bergeron will be lucky if they can combine for 1/5th of Jagr's career. Jagr is back to his usual self racking up nearly a ppg at 42 while Marchand and Bergeron are still underachieving. It's always easier to blame the Euro, especially after he's gone.