Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk Requests Trade II
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I hope this is resolved quickly. Like by end of the week. I know it probably won't be, but this is an unneeded distraction for this group.
Secondly, I hope we get a roster player in return. Some new blood would do this team well. Hopefully someone similar to Jake, a struggling player with potential that could play with Hall.
Secondly, I hope we get a roster player in return. Some new blood would do this team well. Hopefully someone similar to Jake, a struggling player with potential that could play with Hall.
ODAAT
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better happen quickly after Jake put forth such an inspired effort like last night`s 1 SOG and 1 Hit
He shouldn't be in the lineup, definitely just playing not to get hurt.better happen quickly after Jake put forth such an inspired effort like last night`s 1 SOG and 1 Hit
LouJersey
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he sounds like a terrible human and awful teammate
TCB
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@ The National shared this tweet in the 1st Debrusk asks to be traded thread. Just thought it should be in this one as well and the next 3 or 4 to follow.
I wonder if the Blues do have a lot of interest or Armstrong is doing Sweeney some good here as they are apparently good friends and Army owes Donny one for taking Binnington and putting him on the baby Bruins in 2019 when Army was looking for him to have a place to play and of course the Blues and Binnington went on to beat the Bruins in the Cup finals that year.
I just wonder because looking at the Blues roster, outside of Kyro and Thomas, there's no one there who sticks out as possible fit unless its a lot bigger deal. Both teams are up against the cap so it would have to be a near perfect wash cap wise.
I wonder if the Blues do have a lot of interest or Armstrong is doing Sweeney some good here as they are apparently good friends and Army owes Donny one for taking Binnington and putting him on the baby Bruins in 2019 when Army was looking for him to have a place to play and of course the Blues and Binnington went on to beat the Bruins in the Cup finals that year.
I just wonder because looking at the Blues roster, outside of Kyro and Thomas, there's no one there who sticks out as possible fit unless its a lot bigger deal. Both teams are up against the cap so it would have to be a near perfect wash cap wise.
ODAAT
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if not for Providence going through Covid issues, have to think Jake would have been sitting, can`t see Sweeney allowing him to be dressed. This situation is much like one`s we see close to the deadline when teams hold players back knowing they were moving them
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LouJersey
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from the other thread. Jake is not absolved of all blame. He was a fine player and good playoff player, then had his issues w depression/concussions and Covid. He’s had a bad run of 59 games with dealing w all that and his coach has blasted him at every possible moment.
every single forward has flamed out here. They have no been great elsewhere either, so is all on the players or was it development as well?
I mean every trade deadline we have an untouchable prospect list and every one of those guys turned out to be nothing. I mean we didn’t want to include Frederic or Lauzon in deals for guys like Miller and McDonagh and got outbid. Studnicka was untouchable…still so?
from the other thread. Jake is not absolved of all blame. He was a fine player and good playoff player, then had his issues w depression/concussions and Covid. He’s had a bad run of 59 games with dealing w all that and his coach has blasted him at every possible moment.
every single forward has flamed out here. They have no been great elsewhere either, so is all on the players or was it development as well?
I mean every trade deadline we have an untouchable prospect list and every one of those guys turned out to be nothing. I mean we didn’t want to include Frederic or Lauzon in deals for guys like Miller and McDonagh and got outbid. Studnicka was untouchable…still so?
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better happen quickly after Jake put forth such an inspired effort like last night`s 1 SOG and 1 Hit
With DeBrusk on the ice last night....
9-1 SOG (Boston)
7-2 Chances (Boston)
3-1 High Danger Chances (Boston)
He led all Bruins forwards in CF% last night. His "inspired effort" was better than most guys last night.
ODAAT
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half dozen fly bye`s, half dozen chances to use his body to try to separate opponent from puck etc.....
I have seen this Debrusk movie before, sorry friend
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Im far from a guy who is anti-analytics, but did you watch him? We get on our Mites for coasting and not moving their feet like Jake was doing last night. That’s great that the line performed well but I don’t know how you watched him - and I was watching him every time he was on the screen for obvious reasons - and think he was an effective player last night. Or even a player busting his ass to look good for another team. Far from it.
TCB
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My bad, your right Bruins do have around 3 mill cap space and the Blues have very little, but neither is a lot and with Sweeney wanting to bring Tuukka back in the mix, how much space is he going to want to lose in a deal involving the Blues. I just don't see him doing this, after all he's not a magician when it comes to making in season trades as u know in season trades are hard to make.
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BruinsFanSince94
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The only untouchable prospect we have is Lysell and that is solely because he is our only offensive prospect with any top line upside. (And if we had a few more guys with big upside, I’d consider him).
The rest? Trade em!!
— But fire Sweeney first. I don’t want him stinking up the joint anymore. Let the new guy decide who stays and who goes.
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Q: Reda: The Jake DeBrusk situation continues in Boston. He was a healthy scratch over the weekend. He has officially asked for a trade. What kind of interest has he generated right now, Darren?
Darren Dreger: A significant amount, Geno. As many as 12 teams, maybe more than 12 teams have already checked in on the Jake DeBrusk situation with the Boston Bruins, but the reality is the Bruins now need Jake DeBrusk in their lineup. They've got Brad Marchand suspended, their American Hockey League team in Providence is dealing with a COVID issue, so they need him on the ice right now. I would say the New York Rangers are among the teams that have expressed some interest. You've got the Vancouver Canucks, maybe Montreal, maybe Calgary. Certainly Arizona. Go down the list. Historically speaking, when there's been other Jake DeBrusk trade situations and speculations, the St. Louis Blues have been near the top of that list as well. You talk about a kid who could score 20 to 25 and he's scored 16 times in the playoffs. So those stats matter.
Darren Dreger: A significant amount, Geno. As many as 12 teams, maybe more than 12 teams have already checked in on the Jake DeBrusk situation with the Boston Bruins, but the reality is the Bruins now need Jake DeBrusk in their lineup. They've got Brad Marchand suspended, their American Hockey League team in Providence is dealing with a COVID issue, so they need him on the ice right now. I would say the New York Rangers are among the teams that have expressed some interest. You've got the Vancouver Canucks, maybe Montreal, maybe Calgary. Certainly Arizona. Go down the list. Historically speaking, when there's been other Jake DeBrusk trade situations and speculations, the St. Louis Blues have been near the top of that list as well. You talk about a kid who could score 20 to 25 and he's scored 16 times in the playoffs. So those stats matter.
I’d try to hang on to Lohrei too.
Gonzothe7thDman
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It's not like we don't have enough Mason Appleton's in the system already.
Throw a rock in Providence and you'll hit 4 of them.
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@CharasLazyWrister The last thread closed before I could respond so here you go...
I think you're downplaying it but that's fine. Start with Jumbo Joe. He leaves and wins the MVP. Pretty significant, no? And the return for him was piss poor. Kessel leaves and goes to Toronto for a less than stellar package that set the team back for a year. Eventually he gets out of the swamp that is Leafland and wins two cups with Pitt where he was their best player. Again, significant, no? Seguin leaves for a less than stellar return (stop me if you've heard this before, lol) and becomes a PPG player in this league. Wheeler was moved for complimentary pieces that did help to win a cup here, but he also went on to be far better than he was here and a PPG player. Hamilton, again misused and dumped for less than market value and has become a very good player.
But even worse than the big names that have come and gone on to success elsewhere, what's really troubling is them missing on so many picks. To me, it has to be more than just drafting. The development is simply not there, IMO. I've said it here a hundred times and I'll say it again. If the Bruins had taken Barzal or other guys in the 2015 draft, we'd be talking about how badly they missed and why those players aren't making the jump to the NHL. Even if you want to look at guys that did make it, players like Krug, for example. He literally only got in because they were down 3 or 4 defensemen in the playoffs and his play forced them to keep him in the lineup. No injuries and I guarantee he never makes it up to the big squad. It's this never ending fear they have of letting young guys come and learn on the job instead of insisting they be 100% complete players in all zones and phases of the game, while so many other organizations have figured out the way to integrate youth with veterans and not only live with the growing pains, but benefit from the injection of cheap young homegrown talent. The reason Sweeney spent like a drunken sailor in a house of ill repute this off season is simply due to none of their young players being able to make the jump. Is that because they're bad or is that because the team is gun shy? I feel it's the latter, but the constant reaches in the first round doesn't help either.
I think you're downplaying it but that's fine. Start with Jumbo Joe. He leaves and wins the MVP. Pretty significant, no? And the return for him was piss poor. Kessel leaves and goes to Toronto for a less than stellar package that set the team back for a year. Eventually he gets out of the swamp that is Leafland and wins two cups with Pitt where he was their best player. Again, significant, no? Seguin leaves for a less than stellar return (stop me if you've heard this before, lol) and becomes a PPG player in this league. Wheeler was moved for complimentary pieces that did help to win a cup here, but he also went on to be far better than he was here and a PPG player. Hamilton, again misused and dumped for less than market value and has become a very good player.
But even worse than the big names that have come and gone on to success elsewhere, what's really troubling is them missing on so many picks. To me, it has to be more than just drafting. The development is simply not there, IMO. I've said it here a hundred times and I'll say it again. If the Bruins had taken Barzal or other guys in the 2015 draft, we'd be talking about how badly they missed and why those players aren't making the jump to the NHL. Even if you want to look at guys that did make it, players like Krug, for example. He literally only got in because they were down 3 or 4 defensemen in the playoffs and his play forced them to keep him in the lineup. No injuries and I guarantee he never makes it up to the big squad. It's this never ending fear they have of letting young guys come and learn on the job instead of insisting they be 100% complete players in all zones and phases of the game, while so many other organizations have figured out the way to integrate youth with veterans and not only live with the growing pains, but benefit from the injection of cheap young homegrown talent. The reason Sweeney spent like a drunken sailor in a house of ill repute this off season is simply due to none of their young players being able to make the jump. Is that because they're bad or is that because the team is gun shy? I feel it's the latter, but the constant reaches in the first round doesn't help either.
TCB
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I love to see Monahan! I believe this would work cap wise for both teams and give the flames some much needed more room, but once again if Sweeney brings Tuukka back, he himself would need to have more cap room. So I don't see anything, but Debrusk being moved for picks. This guy just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper, so anything is possible. He needs to go yesterday.
Babajingo
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Oooooo Arizona Arizona Arizona. Try to get two of their 5 2nd round picks. Something tells me Sweeny would get a 5th, 6th and some player thats older than clint eastwood
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