Proposal: Ivan Provorov at the TDL
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So far in 2024 (12 games), Provorov has 3 pts. Pace has slowed way down. Average was 31 pts 7y in Philly. I would not expect 40.
Cowumbus
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I know basic maths.
But what’s the outlier: 1 ppg in Oct or 0.25 in Jan? When career avg is 0.41.
surprised you cant see he has slowed down.
I’ll help you out:
Oct 7 pts in 9g 0.78 ppg pacing for 64pts… 26 shifts
Nov 7 pts in 15g 0.47
Dec 6 pts in 14g 0.43
Jan 3 pts in 12 g 0.25 pacing for 20 pts 21 shifts
With all these meaningless games remaining.
Not arguing 35 or 37 pts.
Arguing he is not pacing good.
Petes2424
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There’s too many teams who think they can tweak a player into being what they envision him to be, for their not to be interest.
Now, what price they’re willing to pay, is another story. A Vegas might be willing to pay a little more, having a guy like McNabb who can protect him, and allow him to just play, and not think too much. Which I think has always been his issue.
Great example of pushing a very talented kid too quickly. Can he still be that top player people thought? Who knows at this point. Vegas would be a great situation to find out.
Now, what price they’re willing to pay, is another story. A Vegas might be willing to pay a little more, having a guy like McNabb who can protect him, and allow him to just play, and not think too much. Which I think has always been his issue.
Great example of pushing a very talented kid too quickly. Can he still be that top player people thought? Who knows at this point. Vegas would be a great situation to find out.
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Cowumbus
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CBJ have only scored 29 goals in January - half a goal less than what their season average is per game. A lot of guys hurt. I think he is pacing fine. 1 month pacing at 10.3% of team goals when the team isn’t scoring is NBD. Thats not the outlier?
By month with CBJ:
Oct - 30% 2.55 GPG in 9GP
Nov - 15.6% 3 GPG in 15GP
Dec - 15% 2.85 GPG in 14GP
Jan - 10.3% 2.41 GPG in 12 GP
CBJ *should* score around 95 goals the rest of the way, Provorov factoring in on 15% of them, would give him 14 more points which then would have him end up at 37 (just above the 15% involvement mark 36.45 points). If he scores at 10.3%, he would end up with 33 -> equating to 13.5% over the season (which would be his 2nd worst as an NHLer). Not sure I buy that tbh.
2023 - 15.5% involved in CBJ goals
2022 - 12.1% involved in Flyers goals
2021 - 14.7% involved in Flyers goals
2020 - 15.5% involved in Flyers goals
2019 - 15.5% involved in Flyers goals
2018 - 10.7% involved in Flyers goals
2017 - 16.3% involved in Flyers goals
2016 - 13.9% involved in Flyers goals
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All this to say, Provorov could score 30 points and I still think he would have value at the TDL.
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Limeyjim
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I can't stand Provorov. If I was another team around the NHL looking for an offensive defenseman I'd never consider him. He's a self-centred player who never takes any blame for his defensive faults (which he has plenty).
If Provorov wants to continue his career he should go to the KHL and stay there forever.
If Provorov wants to continue his career he should go to the KHL and stay there forever.
