It's time to loan Grigorenko to Europe

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  1. BloFan4Life

    BloFan4Life Registered User

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    The Sabres just can't do the same crap with this kid anymore. The kid obviously isn't getting better in the NHL and is just getting deeper and deeper into a toxic situation that is going to have irreversible damages. Get him into a situation where he will actually grow as a player now before it is way too late.
     
  2. 1972

    1972 "Craigs on it"

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    If you watch film of Grigo from 8 months ago to now he has most definitely gotten better. People need to hit the brakes at least for the next year or two.

    We can still assign him to Rochester for 14 days and he could also play in the World Juniors which is about a month long, he can also go to Rochester once Quebecs season ends
     
  3. CrankyJay

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    I know he hasn't really earned it, but the kid might need some consistent linemates and minutes to develop any further. He can't go to the AHL, and I don't see him improving any more in Juniors.
     
  4. McCauleyChirps

    McCauleyChirps Gare's "Partner"

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    He's 19. At least his attitude is right, unlike that Yakupov character.

    I say he stays here. Gets AHL next year. See him in 2015.
     
  5. 1972

    1972 "Craigs on it"

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    What exactly has Yak done to have a bad attitude. He is a confident kid who has done nothing to warrant criticism of being a bad attitude
     
  6. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob Now do we believe?

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    Many didn't like the "I'm not going to change" comments.
     
  7. McCauleyChirps

    McCauleyChirps Gare's "Partner"

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on...o-be-healthy-scratch-for-second-straight-game

    So a gimme the puck and not work for it mentality.

    .....and thanks jimbob :)
     
  8. CarlWinslow

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    Here's the thing.

    He was the catalyst for his line's chances last night in the 2nd with his zone entry and board work. Then he gets demoted to the 4th line for some reason and that previously impressive line suddenly generated nothing. They need to leave him be and let him play.

    And I'm all for promoting Larsson from the 4th line, but not at his expense.
     
  9. 1972

    1972 "Craigs on it"

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    I've read that article to, I wouldn't read into what a 19 year old russian said to the media when he has some difficulty with the language barrier.
     
  10. Revelate

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    Absolutely not. He has gotten better.
     
  11. HockeyH3aven

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    He's getting better and better. I thought he had his best game of the season last night, the line he was centering was definitely our most effective.

    He's gone from not doing very important things to not being good at very important things, which is a pretty big step forward. Just needs more experience.
     
  12. BloFan4Life

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    For the people that say he has gotten better...

    He has been scratched two out of the last four games and also been demoted to the fourth line in the game he has played. I fail to see how he has gotten better with actions like these.
     
  13. heartsabres*

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    This is only your opinion and if Grigorenko can´t handle it now then what makes you think he is the guy once the playoffs come....sink or swim bro, sink or swim.
     
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    He's definitely much better than he was last year. Let's see what he does when the team starts scoring more than 1 goal per game. It has to happen eventually.
     
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    SackTastic Embrace The Suck

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    Watch his play on the ice, make your decision on 'better' from that.
     
  16. Jacob582

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    Gifting him minutes would piss off the vets who have earned a spot in this league. It would probably disrupt the locker room creating dissent and may send the team in to a tail spin...........oh wait. You know the vets who have zero points so far too.

    ***********

    In all seriousness give the kid some PP time.
     
  17. HogtownSabresfan

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    Send him to an over 21 league
     
  18. SabresFan26

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    With Yakupov's comments, who loves Ristolainen's comment about not playing.

    Something like

    Were you upset?
    "No I don't play good in Chicago and I want to earn my ice time"

    I really like Risto and am really happy we got him. It is extremely difficult playing in the NHL right away as an 18 year old
     
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    Agree
     
  20. tsujimoto74

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    This. He's growing here, in the NHL. Rolston just needs to keep feeding him opportunities. You know, instead of scratching him every other game.
     
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    Rolston is botching him, I gave Ruff **** for it last year but Ruff picked his spots with him so much better than this.
     
  22. BloFan4Life

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    I still see timidness, getting pushed off puck, inability to do dirty work, doesn't want to shoot (6 on season), still would rather lay off to teammate, etc. Yes he may make a couple nice entries into the zone, but that doesn't constitute him deserving a spot on the team or roster. You expect that and much more from a player in this league.
     
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    Trust in someone goes a long way.
     
  24. SabresFan26

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    One plus of Grig is that he is one of 4 players who have played more than 1 game on the Sabres who is not a minus player. The Pysyk/Ehrhoff pair is +3 (Ehrhoff +2 and Pysyk +1) and McCormick is even
     
  25. sabresandcanucks

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    The compete level was not as high last night as it was in Chicago for Grigs but I still thought he played well enough to stay in the line up.

    Given the energy number 28 is bringing every shift I think it would be beneficial to keep Grigorenko on that line in order to feed off his fellow first round draft picks enthusiasm. He is going to make mistakes, I wish RR would accept that and let him play without the fear he is going to be benched for a bad pass/read here and there. If he starts to coast...then scratch him, but don't kill his creativity and don't put him in situations where he won't be successful (4th line)
     

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