Salary Cap: It's time to buyout the Lehman Brothers

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Forsberg

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( OTT)
2024-25	$2,750,000	$2,750,000	$0	$916,667	$916,667	$1,833,333	$916,667
2025-26	$0	$0	$0	$916,667	$916,667	-$916,667	$916,667

Korpisalo

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( OTT)
2024-25	$5,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$3,666,667	$333,333
2025-26	$4,500,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$3,166,667	$833,333
2026-27	$3,500,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$2,166,667	$1,833,333
2027-28	$3,000,000	$4,000,000	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	$1,666,667	$2,333,333
2028-29	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2029-30	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2030-31	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
2031-32	$0	$0	$0	$1,333,333	$1,333,333	-$1,333,333	$1,333,333
TOTAL	$16,000,000	$16,000,000	$0	$10,666,667	$10,666,667	$5,333,333	$10,666,664

Enough is enough. June 15th cant come soon enough.

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[Neil Patrick Harris]

I could stand Forsberg for one more year, but my god it is remarkable how much of an anchor that Korpisalo contract is. Even I never guessed it'd be *this* awful.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

We might as well have signed Hellberg or any other fodder if this is what we get.

 

[PlayOn]

I think they’ll try to trade Forsberg with some retention, but no idea if any team would be interested in him, even at 1.8 million or so.

Korpisalo is here to stay though.

 

[GCK]

One of the goalies will likely be on the move with Chychrun.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I could stand Forsberg for one more year, but my god it is remarkable how much of an anchor that Korpisalo contract is. Even I never guessed it'd be *this* awful.

nO WAY.

Totally not worth the risk.

 

[robsenz]

Make sense, but also barely matters when this team has no future progression as it is, and as much as the goalitending has been horrific, it's just one of several issues at hand.

 

[GCK]

Make sense, but also barely matters when this team has no future progression as it is, and as much as the goalitending has been horrific, it's just one of several issues at hand.

It’s by far the biggest issue.

 

[Emerica]

Don’t see either of them being bought out.

 

[Hale The Villain]

The team isn't buying out Korpisalo, at least according to Garrioch.

A Forsberg buyout is much easier to stomach given it's only on the books for 2 years. It's a no brainer.

The unfortunate reality is that there are very few quality goalies available and the team isn't going to be able to find two quality goalies.

Look at the UFA market: 2024 NHL Free Agents - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Bone dry. The only guy on that list I'd feel confident going into a season with as the starting goalie is Stolarz.

Trade market is also lacking. There's guys like Saros and Ullmark, but both are UFAs after next season and almost certainly won't want to re-sign here. And if you look at what the Flames were asking for a 34YR old Markstrom from the Devils, the cost would be exorbitant for one of those guys.

 

[GCK]

The team isn't buying out Korpisalo, at least according to Garrioch.

A Forsberg buyout is much easier to stomach given it's only on the books for 2 years. It's a no brainer.

The unfortunate reality is that there are very few quality goalies available and the team isn't going to be able to find two quality goalies.

Look at the UFA market: 2024 NHL Free Agents - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Bone dry. The only guy on that list I'd feel confident going into a season with as the starting goalie is Stolarz.

Trade market is also lacking. There's guys like Saros and Ullmark, but both are UFAs after next season and almost certainly won't want to re-sign here. And if you look at what the Flames were asking for a 34YR old Markstrom from the Devils, the cost would be exorbitant for one of those guys.

Stolartz or Brossoit would be fine on a 2 year.

 

[SensHulk]

If you can’t trade forsberg, send him to the minors next year. I’m sure he’ll eventually get picked up through waivers at some point

With Korpisalo, we are stuck and need to hope to god he can find his game a bit better next season with the new goalie coach. We definitely need to go get another goalie as well to carry the ball…I don’t think we buy out korpi for at least another 2 seasons

 

[DrEasy]

The Lame-ass Brothers.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

If it's true that Ullmark nixed a trade to Ottawa, they might still be able to get him through offering him a contract at the absolute upper level of his market value and faxing him photos of Klingberg and Lindholm.

If I'm a 30 year old goalie coming to Ottawa, I want the big retirement contract with term, a NMC, and signing bonuses that ensure if I get stuck with a bad defensive team in front of me at least I'm still earning and can't lose money or get forced to the AHL ala Jack Campbell.

If that happens, Forsberg goes with Chychrun.

A Korpisalo buyout doesn't happen because they can save a similar amount of cap through burying him, it's just structured differently where they save less cap in the short term but have dead cap for a shorter period of time.

 

[Tuna99]

One of the goalies will likely be on the move with Chychrun.

We’d have to include our #5 overall pick to make this trade happen - what team in the history of the NHL ever asked for a tank goalie and a tank defenceman?

Chychryn is getting into Dion Phaneuf trade territory.

 

[Tuna99]

Ottawa: Tristan Jarry
Pitt: Boston 1st 2024, Ottawa 4th 2024, Lévis Merilienen, Anton Forsberg

Bury Korpisalo in Belleville and see if he can get his game together for a trade or buyout next year.

Jarry
Sogaard

 

[Alex1234]

We might as well have signed Hellberg or any other fodder if this is what we get.

2024 NHL Free Agents - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

2024 NHL free agent players who are available to be signed during NHL free agency

www.capfriendly.com

Pick realistic 2
Anyone 2
Except from Murray and Hart
(We all know Swayman not coming here though)
Honestly can be worst than what we have

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

It is amazing how when you watch a Sens game and they have a stretch where they are pressuring and getting scoring chances, you just assume that the next time the opposing team gets it into the Sens end and throws it on net that it's going in.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

If it's true that Ullmark nixed a trade to Ottawa, they might still be able to get him through offering him a contract at the absolute upper level of his market value and faxing him photos of Klingberg and Lindholm.

If I'm a 30 year old goalie coming to Ottawa, I want the big retirement contract with term, a NMC, and signing bonuses that ensure if I get stuck with a bad defensive team in front of me at least I'm still earning and can't lose money or get forced to the AHL ala Jack Campbell.

If that happens, Forsberg goes with Chychrun.

A Korpisalo buyout doesn't happen because they can save a similar amount of cap through burying him, it's just structured differently where they save less cap in the short term but have dead cap for a shorter period of time.

I thought he nixed a trade to LA due being on the west coast.

 

[StoicSensFan]

It is amazing how when you watch a Sens game and they have a stretch where they are pressuring and getting scoring chances, you just assume that the next time the opposing team gets it into the Sens end and throws it on net that it's going in.

It feels like one of Andy's off years even though he's not between the pipes.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Don’t see either of them being bought out.

I don’t know what’s going on or what will happen. But, let’s just say that Bruce said Korpisalo will not be bought out, and Andlauer made more positive sounding comments about Senator goaltending. Bruce suggested that it could be Forsberg on the move.

It's a weird situation and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

If it's true that Ullmark nixed a trade to Ottawa, they might still be able to get him through offering him a contract at the absolute upper level of his market value and faxing him photos of Klingberg and Lindholm.

If I'm a 30 year old goalie coming to Ottawa, I want the big retirement contract with term, a NMC, and signing bonuses that ensure if I get stuck with a bad defensive team in front of me at least I'm still earning and can't lose money or get forced to the AHL ala Jack Campbell.

If that happens, Forsberg goes with Chychrun.

A Korpisalo buyout doesn't happen because they can save a similar amount of cap through burying him, it's just structured differently where they save less cap in the short term but have dead cap for a shorter period of time.

That’s just it, isn’t it. Hard to imagine a goalie wanting to come here unless he has few options, or is near or nearer the end of his career and is getting a big contract that he can live comfortably on in retirement.

The Senators haven’t learned how to cover the opponents in their own zone that are in the best position to score. Last night was just another example of that.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

2024 NHL Free Agents - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

2024 NHL free agent players who are available to be signed during NHL free agency

www.capfriendly.com

Pick realistic 2
Anyone 2
Except from Murray and Hart
(We all know Swayman not coming here though)
Honestly can be worst than what we have

Not much amongst that list that is particularly enticing. Might not be worse, but it might not be much better either.

If it's a trade, they’ll see a desperate Staois coming from a million miles away.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

That’s just it, isn’t it. Hard to imagine a goalie wanting to come here unless he has few options, or is near or nearer the end of his career and is getting a big contract that he can live comfortably on in retirement.

The Senators haven’t learned how to cover the opponents in their own zone that are in the best position to score. Last night was just another example of that.

If I am Ullmark, the Senators need to offer something like 6+ year at 6.5M with a NMC, front loaded money, and signing bonuses - and there has to be no other option for an early extension.

He will be 32 when a contract kicks in. Getting only 3-4 years term in Ottawa could be a career ender for a goalie at that stage of his career.

The tradeoff for coming to Ottawa would have to be that no matter what happens, he's maximized his earnings and can't get bought out or exiled to the AHL.

Look at Huberdeau. If he is like most players, Calgary was not his first choice - but he signed there because they gave him the absolute peak of his market value in money+terms and he is looking smart for taking it because he probably would have gotten tens of millions of dollars less as a free agent.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

It's understandable that Sens nation would be writing these guys off as the worst goalies to have ever played for us. And yes, they have been bad this year.

But... there are always teams desperate for goaltending. And there aren't a lot of options. Just a hunch, but GMs around the league probably know Korpse and Forsberg aren't as bad as their records indicate. They know them as actual people.

They've had piss poor seasons playing behind a soft, inexperienced team. But I wouldn't be shocked if a GM, desperate enough for goaltending, picked Korpse up this summer.... and then watch him have a rebound year like Talbot did this season.